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LISTEN: Donald Trump and the problem of having a BEE in your bonnet

From global powers to distant observers, everyone has weighed in on the theatrical meeting between Presidents Ramaphosa and Trump. But is there really anything left to say? The answer is, well, yes. Particularly, it turns out about golf, and the process of telling fibs not only about contentious local and international events, but more importantly, about your handicap. Entrepreneur Mark Barnes and Daily Maverick Editor at Large Tim Cohen discuss these and other important matters, including the utility and problems of “equity equivalents” when it comes to Black Economic Empowerment. Take a listen.
LISTEN: Donald Trump and the problem of having a BEE in your bonnet
Mark Barnes and Tim Cohen
By Mark Barnes and Tim Cohen
27 May 2025
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The world and its distant relatives have had their say about the theatrical meeting between South African President Cyril Ramaphosa and US President Donald Trump. Is there anything more to say? The answer is, well, yes. Particularly, it turns out about golf, and the process of telling fibs not only about contentious local and international events, but more importantly, about your handicap. Entrepreneur Mark Barnes and Daily Maverick Editor at Large Tim Cohen discuss these and other important matters, including the utility and problems of “equity equivalents” when it comes to Black Economic Empowerment. Take a listen.

Hosted by Mark Barnes & Tim Cohen

Produced by Tevya Turok Shapiro

Music & Design by Bernard Kotze

 

Hosted by Mark Barnes & Tim Cohen

Produced by Tevya Turok Shapiro

Music & Design by Bernard Kotze

 






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