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ANALYSIS

Zuma will have to be kicked out of the ANC, but the disciplinary process will matter too

Former president Jacob Zuma’s decision to campaign for a new party, currently called uMkhonto Wesizwe, will surely leave the ANC no choice but to formally expel him. The mechanics of his expulsion will matter and present an important test for the ANC secretary-general, Fikile Mbalula. Based on his previous conduct, it is one he may fail.
Zuma will have to be kicked out of the ANC, but the disciplinary process will matter too Former president Jacob Zuma (Photo: Leila Dougan)

The expulsion of Jacob Zuma from the ANC, which appears inevitable, would be a huge victory for President Cyril Ramaphosa – the last remaining senior public face of opposition towards him would have left the party, virtually of his own free will. 

Still, there may be no truer indication of the difficult road ahead for the ANC this year than the sight of its secretary-general, Fikile Mbalula, telling the world that the ANC, including himself, had committed immoral acts to protect its former president, who has now, in Mbalula’s words, “expelled himself”.

At a press conference on Sunday, Mbalula said that in the past the ANC had been forced to defend Zuma. In particular, he said, the ANC had to lie to defend Zuma and falsely claim that the swimming pool at Nkandla was a “fire pool”.

Significantly, Mbalula also said that Zuma had now “expelled himself” from the ANC through his public campaigning for the new party called uMkhonto Wesizwe.

Intriguingly, while Mbalula is attacking Zuma for his immoral acts now, he did not do so at the time.

In 2010, when Zuma was at the height of his power, Mbalula told the ANC National Executive Committee (NEC) that the Guptas had told him he was going to be appointed to the Cabinet in 2010. But the NEC decided not to act.

Mbalula simply accepted the position and the powers that came with it, despite knowing that what had happened was wrong and that it was obvious the Guptas had captured the state through controlling Zuma. 

Jump forward more than 13 years and Zuma’s decision to campaign for a new party leads to all sorts of questions.

It is perhaps the biggest signal yet that Zuma has comprehensively lost the battle within the governing party. It suggests he has no allies left and no power inside the corridors of the ruling party.

If it is no longer able to call itself uMkhonto Wesizwe, its leadership will find it difficult over the next few months to market another name that can convince voters to support it.

There is very little evidence that he is taking a significant chunk of support with him.

It is of course true that Zuma can still draw a crowd. But so far no one with a large constituency has said they will support the new party – and the only fact many voters will know about uMkhonto Wesizwe is that it is supported by Zuma.

The ANC is likely to win the upcoming court battle over the name of Zuma’s new political crush. If it is no longer able to call itself uMkhonto Wesizwe, its leadership will find it difficult over the next few months to market another name that can convince voters to support it.

Zuma’s own goal may become even more obvious.

Damaging information

It is entirely likely that ANC leaders decide not just to criticise Zuma, but to quietly release more damaging information about him to the public. Mbalula’s strong language about the former President may be just the start of what is to come, and could further weaken whatever negotiating position Zuma still has.

And, of course, as many other political movements have shown, forming a successful new party just before an election is extremely difficult. It requires talent, expertise, competence, money and charisma, most of which are sorely missing from Zuma’s already complicated equation.

For the ANC there may well be a political bonus from this affair.

It could argue, in an election year, that there is no greater symbol of its decision to renew itself than the expulsion from the party of a former leader, the person who led it through “nine wasted years”.  

The fact that other people who were part of the Gupta agenda, such as Ace Magashule, have also left would strengthen this argument.

Zuma’s decision to join or form this new party rather than work with Magashule or even the EFF is significant — it suggests that there is no unity within this group.

It would appear to prove that despite public speculation that Zuma and EFF leader Julius Malema have a similar agenda, they cannot work together and will struggle to align their ambitions.

This is important because it means politicians campaigning on a populist platform of radical or revolutionary change are not forming a single powerful group just yet. 

While it is clear that Zuma has broken the ANC’s rules by campaigning for another party, there is still a process that must be followed.

Some may believe this is the first time that Zuma has endorsed a political party other than the ANC.

But just before the 2019 elections, he welcomed a delegation from Black First Land First and was photographed with them. It was clearly an endorsement — and yet no action was taken by the ANC. While Zuma has gone further this time, it is an indication of just how strongly the wind has turned against him that things are moving so quickly.

Travails for Mbalula

But while the ANC can benefit from these developments, Mbalula faces a difficult series of tests.

As the party’s secretary-general, formally removing Zuma from the party will be his responsibility unless Zuma makes it easy and formally resigns.

While it is clear that Zuma has broken the ANC’s rules by campaigning for another party, there is still a process that must be followed. If it is not, Zuma could seek judicial intervention and further embarrass the party.

He could still try to attend NEC meetings (as a former leader he has the right, until expelled, to attend as an observer). Were he to do this, he could turn each NEC meeting into a public circus with him at the centre of it.

For Mbalula to simply say that Zuma has “expelled himself” from the ANC is not the legal end of the matter until those processes are completed.

Unfortunately, Mbalula has shown little regard for legal procedure in the past.

When former Public Protector Busisiwe Mkhwebane found he had benefited improperly from money he received from a sporting goods supplier while he was minister of sport, his response was to ignore this.

When he was minister of transport he was told at a press conference that his decision to dissolve the board of Prasa and appoint a single administrator was illegal. Despite that, he pushed ahead, with the result that a judge ruled his action was illegal.

It is useful to contrast his treatment of procedure with how the ANC removed Malema from the party.

That disciplinary process took years, with evidence, appeals and applications. The lengthy process was deliberate and weakened Malema’s standing within the ANC.

But it meant that when he was formally expelled (in an appeal process overseen by the ANC’s National Disciplinary Committee of Appeal chaired by Ramaphosa) the process was accepted by ANC members as final and legitimate.

It can be argued that the case of a former leader of the party should be handled with at least as much care.

No matter what happens next, for many in the ANC, Zuma’s actions are a betrayal. They will believe that first, he used the ANC to help his friends and his family and to loot the country. And now he has again, and finally, betrayed the ANC for his narrow agenda.

Expect much more high emotion around the man who dominated our politics for many years. DM

Comments

Heinrich Holt Jan 9, 2024, 12:37 AM

Frikkie does not have the moral standing, tactical astuteness, understanding of due process, or the basic intelligence to handle this situation. He is a talking head who makes no sense and will stuff this up. Sadly, JZ, the old master corrupt mafioso he is, even with only Standard 3, will run circles around him.

Gammatu Jan 9, 2024, 05:34 AM

Actually the article lacks balance. It's trying to paint a picture with no ink. This one you sit and watch. Time will tell.

Paul T Jan 9, 2024, 05:53 AM

Would you mind substantiating your comment with some facts and arguments?

Jimbo Smith Jan 9, 2024, 07:31 AM

Precisely. These meaningless posts mask an inability to state a firm view or position.

Francois Smith Jan 9, 2024, 08:03 AM

I beg to differ, the article has a title and simply adds evidence to it. The issue for Bra Mbuks is that whilst he needs to start getting the ANC's election machine running, run the ANC and defend Ramaphosa, he needs to fight Zuma. This is all good news for RSA as such: A clown in charge of disciplining a shark in a circus that Ramaphosa wanted to unite at the expense of the whole of South Africa. At least we will have some funny moments. We will laugh because we are not able to cry anymore.

Penny Philip Jan 9, 2024, 09:26 AM

Most articles on political movements & figures are opinion pieces , written by experienced political journalists. Politicians don't publicly lay out their detailed plans , so articles have to be written based on past experience & current knowledge.

Denise Smit Jan 9, 2024, 01:58 PM

I agree Thabo, anything is possible in the ANC

szwane Jan 9, 2024, 06:30 AM

There is no other alternative. Some have done far less and were expelled. The old man has to go.

kanhengap Jan 9, 2024, 06:30 AM

Your Zuma analysis is warped to say the least or lopsided. Doesn't Zuma have dirty secrets of those in power today which he can also expose? Zuma is not an amateure when it comes to political mobilization and Mbalula knows it. If ANC loses a significant chunk in KZN it poses serious challenges as KZN is the largest voting block. Zuma's arrest caused those destructive riots in 2021 July and suddenly you're amnesiac to that. Just like DA started off as a Western Cape party, MK can start off as a KZN party. If Zuma doesn't have money that means he didn't steal from the nation during his reign. Zuma can mobilize supporters and funding. The Guptas are still as liquid and so are some businessmen sympathetic to Msholozi. By not joining Magashule, Zuma would like Ace to form a party in his stronghold. Ace's party just like MK will stop the ANC from outright majority in Free State and North West. Maybe you are writing for Ramaphosa's ears only. Be honest and state the likelihood of an ANC destabilisation by Ace and Msholozi

Thinker and Doer Jan 9, 2024, 07:09 AM

Yes, it is interesting to consider how the vote could be significantly split in KZN, and perhaps as you point out, some of the other splinter parties could drain some support in other provinces. But it will be particularly interesting to see the effect in KZN, along with the showing of the IFP. The ANC is already making a mess of this issue, with Mbalula making statements about how they set up the ad hoc committee on Nkandla in Parliament to defend the President, and also lied in evidence to that Committee. That is certainly no surprise, but it just highlights how inept and corrupt the Party is and what it will do to retain power and access to pools of public funds. This has continued in the current Parliament with the Phala Phala "investigation", and further corruption and maladministration scandals. Having to devote a lot of attention to Zuma and his Party in the run up to the elections could be beneficial for diverting effective campaigning by the ANC on other matters. This infighting, etc, and splintering of the ANC indicates in what a moribund state the ANC is in. The opposition can hope that these forces will greatly destabilize the ANC and show up the true state of thr party, while the opposition must put forward a positive platform to address the critical issues for the country that will benefit everyone. That will provide a positive contrast to the imploding, corrupt, incompetent ANC, and provide the best hope for the ANC being voted out of power.

Jennifer D Jan 9, 2024, 07:48 AM

If Zuma doesn’t have any money maybe it means he is so stupid, he facilitated the Gupta state capture for a new pool. Or, maybe it means he’s too scared to get to his money and his family are spending it in Dubai. Or, how about he’s using his money to help starving African children in the rural areas and he’s such a magnificent man, that he doesn’t wish to be in the limelight.

Grumpy Old Man Jan 9, 2024, 07:23 AM

Your logic is perverse. In fact I would go so far as to say 'it's an abuse of logic'. For anyone to suggest that 'if Zuma doesn't have money means that he didn't steal money during his reign' (let's ignore your use of the word 'reign') is an argument I would only expect to see on 'X' or from a graduate of the Fikile Mbalula School of Logic

Fanie Rajesh Ngabiso Jan 9, 2024, 08:07 AM

Yes. The fact that a fool and his money are soon parted does not preclude the fool from being a thief, it actually increases the likelihood.

Lebitsi Leburu Jan 9, 2024, 12:27 PM

I don't think the name change will affect the voting pattern for MKP. MKP is Zuma so any name will work for them as long as Zuma is the face.

Gerrie Pretorius Jan 9, 2024, 01:28 PM

Ever heard of ‘tongue in cheek’?

jngcebetsha Jan 9, 2024, 08:39 AM

In defence of Steven. The articles was mostly about whether Zuma should just be expelled or be subjected to a disciplinary process.

Penny Philip Jan 9, 2024, 10:06 AM

Zuma's LEGAL arrest for contempt of court resulted in a coup attempt, which was planned long in advance of his arrest. Zuma has always had a problem with spending more money than he has, & even Mandela had to bail him out to the tune of about R1 million when Zuma became deputy president. Ace was a 'gangster' from the start & always found ways to personally profit off ANC fund raising. The DA didn't start one year, & become official opposition the next year. It took years. Zuma's ego has made him delusional about coming back into power (no doubt encouraged by some of his family members who have their own plans to be in power). The very last thing this country needs is a very old & corrupt leader, who badly damaged South Africa the first time around.

Hidden Name Jan 9, 2024, 12:19 PM

I mean, first off, the DA is NOT and never was just a "Western Cape" party - they have been the official opposition pretty much from when they formed. Second, your rather vapid support of Ace (who will get no votes) and Zuma (who will also get no votes) kind of puts all your other statements on rather shaky ground. The riots stemming from Zuma's arrest have a lot more to do with a bunch of opportunists and incredibly desperate people than Zuma. For the most, the rioters would just have been expressing their general anger and frustration, with an extremely dangerous criminal element taking advantage of the chaos. I really doubt the majority of them are Zuma supporters.

dibaland Jan 9, 2024, 07:05 AM

I think Zuma new about all that is mentioned and he took a very smart calculated move. Umkhonto Wesizwe will cause serious damage to the ANC campaign. Ramaphosa is only loved by You, the media and Mbalula has actually put his own party under scrutiny. He is the weakest General Secretary ANC has ever had, and I don't see him finishing his term. He is a clown, and as much as you can speak I'll about Zuma, Ramaphosa Also doesn't respect the law, and he doesn't care about black community who are the truthful owner of the land. In my own opinion, Ramaphosa will be forced to resign to avoid violence in the country. ANC and Ramaphosa are finished...

Jennifer D Jan 9, 2024, 07:52 AM

The fact that you don’t care that Zuma is a criminal who facilitates the collapse of a country and the theft of its assets is an indication of the type of person you are.

Fanie Rajesh Ngabiso Jan 9, 2024, 08:09 AM

So what you're saying is that they're all rubbish and that you'll be doing the clever thing and voting DA this election?

Glyn Morgan Jan 9, 2024, 12:54 PM

What is said above is a mixed bag. Voting for the DA IS an intelligent move.

Denise Smit Jan 9, 2024, 02:07 PM

EFF have promised or threatened violence

Ben Hawkins Jan 9, 2024, 07:08 AM

What a circus, enough clowns around

Les Thorpe Jan 9, 2024, 01:14 PM

Well summarised!!

D'Esprit Dan Jan 9, 2024, 07:15 AM

I wonder if the timing of the revelations around NSFAS are purely coincidental, or were 'leaked' to OUTA by someone sympathetic to Zuma - Nzimande being a key backer of Cyril's. On the other hand, revelations of ANC corruption are almost a daily occurrence, so it could be purely coincidental. What is clear (for the time being), is that Ramaphosa is ousting the RET faction, albeit at a glacial pace, which is good news for South Africa. On the other hand (again), there is no shortage of corrupt cadres waiting in the wings to take up the slack when that faction is removed. Business as usual in Ponzi scheme ANC-land.

Jimbo Smith Jan 9, 2024, 07:29 AM

This is a truly despicable political organisation where there is no integrity. Instead it is a bunch of power infused individuals slobbering away at the trough who, when threatened, will do anything to hold onto the spoils. As for Mbalula, the less said the better....

Jennifer D Jan 9, 2024, 07:31 AM

“30 wasted years” during which the country has slowly (or as quickly as is possible) ground to a halt and fallen into disrepute and ruin. The lack of ethics, or even lack of perception of ethics, was apparent throughout Africa in 1990 and we have come to see it unfold in front and around us. There have been so many excuses - apartheid, Zuma and the Guptas, one criminal politician after another - the reality is “no ethics”. Sadly I see no way out of the hole. If miraculously we find a non criminal somewhere and appoint him to do anything, the criminal majority will get rid of him chop chop with the sanction of the criminals in charge. It is a devastatingly sad and desperate situation.

Gerrie Pretorius Jan 9, 2024, 01:46 PM

Just as bad as the USA having to choose between Biden and Trump. Are there no real political leaders left in the world?

Hilary Morris Jan 10, 2024, 09:40 AM

Not much wrong with Biden! Look at his achievements.

bmudem Jan 9, 2024, 07:57 AM

Zuma is destroying ANC from within. Previously KZN was ANC stronghold, leadership must try to negotiate with ubaba to build a united force for the upcoming elections. My thoughts

robertfraser0 Jan 9, 2024, 08:06 AM

Bob 9th January 2024 Mbalula is not a person of courage or discipline and certainly had no morals as recent history has shown, so why should anything different be expected of him now.

Craig A Jan 9, 2024, 08:30 AM

If members of the ANC elite lied to protect Zuma, are they not guilty of perjury? Is it still a crime to lie under oath?

Alan Watkins Jan 9, 2024, 09:58 AM

Or guilty of lying to parliament. Come on opposition parties, lets see some action

Johan Buys Jan 9, 2024, 08:30 AM

If MK name can’t be used, we should come up with suggestions: Sneer of the Nation Cashier of the Nation Auctioneer of the Nation Or Cause of Emigration On to Sequestration Center for Polarization

Michael Thomlinson Jan 9, 2024, 01:20 PM

ATM (Automatic Teller Machine) - oh, but sorry that was is taken.

Jacki McInnes Jan 10, 2024, 07:36 AM

Yes, their choice of political party name has always amused me. Not well thought through. Or... maybe just forthright

T'Plana Hath Jan 10, 2024, 08:58 AM

UmThondo We Sizwe!

Greeff Kotzé Jan 10, 2024, 01:46 PM

Perfection. Though I suspect even that name may be lauded by some. (And since the spear was quite a phallic object in the first place...)

jngcebetsha Jan 9, 2024, 08:32 AM

Correction, Stevovo: Zuma is no longer allowed to attend NEC meetings because of the step aside rule. His conviction and imprisonment for contempt of Concourt fall under that rule.

mtobathembinkosi Jan 9, 2024, 08:43 AM

The former president of the ANC has shot himself in the foot for supporting the new political party

mabuselas Jan 9, 2024, 09:03 AM

but to be honest i dont se this going to help,forming more than million parties wont stop anc from winning .all this parties are formed cause they are also greedy for money ,why do people want to rule and they dont want to be ruled ?,why this people dont give each other a chance?mr zum had his role why cant he accept he did his role who will vote for him as president,yes on municipality election yes i can go foor parties but for national i stand firm for president mandela anc,DA is failling us here in jhb and tshwane metro to be hones durng anc tshwane was better ,now pretoria is smelling like marabastad before,come on da is failing us lets try another party for municipality but national one must decide

Roger Sheppard Jan 10, 2024, 10:01 PM

How is the DA failing you? They were in agreement with Patriotic Front, but Patriotic Front suddenly dropped the DA, and voted ANC, leaving DA cold. This is what Gayton MacKenzie did - he promised to support the DA against the ANC, in JHB, but suddenly turned against the DA , leaving JHB without a proper Mayor. Mabusela you need to read more I think.

Sum Tea Jan 9, 2024, 09:07 AM

Welcome back Stephen:) it's good to have your perspective again

Philip Machanick Jan 9, 2024, 09:21 AM

Expulsion is much easier if it is done without resistance. Would Zuma fight this? Possibly, as that is what he does, even when it makes no sense. His lawyers have big stomachs to fill.

Jehan Bektir Jan 9, 2024, 09:59 AM

Who is going to expel Zuma? The same party that ordered Cele to apologise?

Alan Watkins Jan 9, 2024, 09:50 AM

"It is entirely likely that ANC leaders decide not just to criticise Zuma, but to quietly release more damaging information about him to the public." I REALLY hope so. And I REALLY hope that Zuma releases equally damaging information about other ANC leaders. Let the games begin.

David Dowling Jan 9, 2024, 12:51 PM

Well put Alan. "When thieves fall out" .............

Greeff Kotzé Jan 10, 2024, 01:49 PM

Not a bad outcome — for the average citizen, anyway.

jscotcher Jan 9, 2024, 10:01 AM

There are so many curved balls around and there will be more. How many will we be able to catch to make sense of it all?

johnbpatson Jan 9, 2024, 10:09 AM

They have not expelled him yet? That is incredible -- he is campaigning for another political party and they do nothing. There is an old cliché that in Africa time moves differently. It used to drive my Dad mad when he could not get tyres for his car (a simple Toyota) in KZN, for eight weeks. He knew tyres landed in Durban, were shipped to the high veld and then back down, and there were always holidays -- six weeks Dec Jan, strikes and problems, but it still drove him crazy. Similarly Joburgers used to laugh at Capies who would say, "Lets go windsurfing" and eventually organise something for two weeks time, where as in Joburg they would jump into the car and be on the dam in an hour (when the dams were not so full of shit). The ANC has embraced the Africa time theory and is taking it to extremes. Maybe they are just hoping Zuma will pop his socks so they can have the state pay for a funeral in a soccer stadium, and are already casting for a deaf language translator, and waiting to see which international politician will flirt with another in the stands... That is a way to dominate international news cycles for a day. And they can't do that if he is expelled... Or maybe they are staring at tenders for "security services" and wondering how they can fiddle them and set them up, with a particular reference to KZN, because the cops will do nothing until three days after the riot -- African time.

thami.mathe Jan 9, 2024, 10:18 AM

My personal view is that Zuma knows exactly what he is doing by supporting the MK party in the name of saving the ANC. In as much as the MK party will not win the elections both in KZN and Nationally, their vote will matter in the era of coalition politics the country finds itself in. In KZN, the MK is likely to be the Kingmaker and in all likelihood it will form a coalition with the ANC (which will clearly get less than 50% of the provincial vote). That's the only vehicle for the ANC to remain in power in KZN, more so because of the threat posed by the IFP in the province (if the by election results are anything to go by). So, if I were the ANC I would not rush to act on Zuma since that has a potential of fueling his support given how he thrives on being a victim. Change of name from MK to something else will not change the attitudes of the Pro-Zuma supporters. Support for the MK in KZN in particular has nothing to do with the name, it is much to do with the person of Zuma. How the MK will impact the National vote is not yet clear at this stage, we just have to wait and see.

Greeff Kotzé Jan 10, 2024, 01:52 PM

A cogent analysis — I'm inclined to agree.

larryp Jan 9, 2024, 10:27 AM

If JZ has expelled himself then he can reinstate himself as well.

Jacki McInnes Jan 10, 2024, 07:43 AM

Hmm good point. I hadn't thought of that. Nor has the ANC

Middle aged Mike Jan 9, 2024, 10:35 AM

I was thrilled when Mbalula became the ANCs COO given his remarkable track record of FUBARing every portfolio entrusted to him before then. He serves both as an examplar of the quality of our elected leadership and, I suspect, a harbinger of the collapse and fragmentation of the ANC under the crushing weight of its venality and incompetence. He is good for the occasional incredulous laugh too which is another positive.

Glyn Morgan Jan 9, 2024, 10:35 AM

This has been written in a general manner. I agree with most of this article BUT there is KZN to think about. Zume has his power block in KZN. That could be a problem for the ANC as it is one of their strongholds. If Zuma takes 20% of the KZN vote that would be catastrophic for the ANC nationaly. That could be a major boon for the opposition parties, esp. the IFP and the DA.

mapiwanage Jan 9, 2024, 10:46 AM

I've noted from your article that you really would love Jacob Zuma to suffer the consequences you've stated which then nullifies the entire article, this questions the fairness of the media in the country.

blommie2np Jan 9, 2024, 10:50 AM

I for one is looking forward to Zuma destroying the Anc. This will be good for Mzansi.

Matthew Quinton Jan 9, 2024, 11:12 AM

ZUMA WILL NOT BE KICKED OUT OF THE ANC THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS WILL BE THE TYPICAL BS There you go... fixed your headline. It's a pleasure.

Jehan Bektir Jan 9, 2024, 05:38 PM

Yes. Ditto if we were waiting for Cele's apology.

thembanyathi Jan 9, 2024, 11:14 AM

Mbalula can yell on top of his voice about Zuma he gave him a job.

Cunningham Ngcukana Jan 9, 2024, 11:25 AM

I think that I tend to agree with Stephen on his analysis but I disagree with the notion that Zuma has some influence. I listened to a political plumber called Breakfast who is lost. Zuma presided over the electoral decline of the ANC since he became its President. The EFF was born under his watch and in 2014 they got 8 percent. In the 2016 municipal elections the ANC lost major metros in Nelson Mandela Bay Metro, Johannesburg and Tshwane as well as some municipalities and ushered the era of coalitions that he is rubbishing now. Zuma who is trafficking in lies, despite his charges and conviction he was not asked to step side by the NEC. This is because the PEC led by Ntuli and Zikalala were avoiding a rapture that Breakfast is oblivious to. They handled him with maturity. His people finally took over the KZN leadership, something that he did not want because he wanted them as a base for his new party. The ANC national leadership moved to embrace those who were removed from the leadership. Zuma was left with no foot soldiers except the Pep Stores fatigues in KZN. He asked them to register the MK Party as they admitted . The KZN ANC leadership was left with no alternative but to hammer him now. He went to Mkhondo in Mpumalanga where local leaders have been arrested for vigilantism and the area is Zulu speaking. They were appearing yesterday and he was nowhere to be found. The ANC is leaving him though he has resigned by conduct to deal with him in the future correctly so.

logik Jan 9, 2024, 01:37 PM

I know very little about politics, but is it possible that the endorsement of the new MK party by the wily JZ is a ploy on his part to re-enter the political family of the ANC? Might the ruling party not decide that to protect the KZN vote they will offer JZ a plum position in government or the party structure - provided, of course, that he is not too ill to take it up...?

Cedric Richards Jan 9, 2024, 01:55 PM

There is another way to look at what is happening here. If you realize that you are losing power fast and there is a good chance that you will fall below the 50% to govern outright, what do you do? You manufacture your own coalition partner. This is what Zuma and the new MK party is. Zuma will pick up all the disillusioned ANC voters who do not have the courage to vote for an opposition party but will be happy to give their vote to an ex ANC leader especially with a party named MK. After the voting is over, these 2 parties will form a coalition and stay in power. A very shrewd and tactical plan, just the way the chess player Zuma would have thought it up.

Jehan Bektir Jan 9, 2024, 05:42 PM

Spare a thought for that Zuma fan, Carl Niehaus. No sooner had he joined the EFF, then his master started his own party. Bad timing, Carl.

Joe Irwin Jan 9, 2024, 05:56 PM

I have to agree with you. It was the first thing I thought when I read that the MK party was formed.

Greeff Kotzé Jan 10, 2024, 02:02 PM

Yes, but rather than having "been deployed" by the ANC at large, this is still a Zuma-led move, and you better believe that he will extract concessions for it. Besides, it's hard to tell these days how many of his moves are of his own design, and how much of them are the result of him being steered by his children.

Mendo Gampu Jan 9, 2024, 03:02 PM

Indeed a complicated issue with complex incumbents

Senzo Moyakhe Jan 9, 2024, 03:14 PM

Someone please educate me, I ask seriously. What power does Parliament have to call someone and/or people who have been shown to have willingly lied to Parliament at a formal sitting of the House? Somehow, I get the feeling the ANC is running a devious campaign to drain him of resources if Parliament has the power to call him in and request that he is liable to pay back that money. But I need education here (Parliamentary process, that is). Someone please help.

John P Jan 9, 2024, 03:19 PM

Regretfully all this probably just means that we can expect an ANC/MK/EFF coalition government later this year.

Cedric Richards Jan 9, 2024, 03:26 PM

exactly what I believe and what I wrote.

Cedric Richards Jan 9, 2024, 03:28 PM

Hopefully without the EFF

roelf.pretorius Jan 9, 2024, 03:26 PM

Actually Zuma was making a political move, but as far as I have heard, to campaign for another political party does literally mean he has "expelled himself" (like most other political parties too). So legally he IS not a member of the ANC any more, no matter how much he says he will stay part of it. But I don't think Zuma worries about the legality - he is just trying to take as much support with him as possible. So I would think that the way is to communicate the state of affairs and what the ANC Constitution says about it to the branches for discussion, and feedback about whether they accept that their constitution should be applied. If there is general support, an announcement about his membership being terminated must follow. The only thing remaining to be seen is if the ANC has not become too arrogant to engage in such a process. They may do exactly as Mbalula said; just remove his name from their membership list. And then it is possible that about 5% of the ANC support, or 2.5% of the electorate, mostly from KZN, will follow him to the new party. That is 10 seats in parliament, of which one will certainly be preserved for him. But the ANC may well get support from those who stopped supporting the party because of the corruption back. So in the end it may serve the purposes of both Ramaphosa and Zuma!

Cunningham Ngcukana Jan 9, 2024, 06:50 PM

You are correct. Zuma has through his conduct resigned or expelled himself from the ANC and the ANC does not need to do anything except to bar him from activities of the ANC that require ANC members. He can be accepted in public meetings provided he behaves. One does not believe that he has any support outside the ANC and if he has, the ANC would have not lost municipalities and the eThekwini Metro whilst he was campaigning in 2021. Gauteng has never had truck for him and in Mpumalanga it is opportunism that has short legs. The fellow as a known political thug, is jumping ship in anticipation that the ANC will be below 50% in the elections to claim that he was responsible. But the reality is that the polls will show that he was never a factor in the outcomes of the elections as he was not in 2021. This reality will dawn like all the legal hallucinations that he harbours. But it will actually help all of us to assign him to the dustbin of history where he belongs. We will never hear about the clown after elections. The congested political landscape of Natal is going o squeeze him to insignificance.

Mano Murugan Jan 10, 2024, 08:35 AM

I think that the failing ANC is silently supporting the MK. All this publicity is to throw out this type of thinking. If the supporters are leaving in droves, the new ANC would score tremendously. Trump and the social media of the Russians? Ring a bell?. The above is just my opinion, I could be wrong

mzwakhezant Jan 10, 2024, 01:19 PM

All of that anc leadership are at the end of the day selling out that organisation. They tried to make it superior to the state now that liberation talk is over there's no formidable agenda to take its constituents and the most poor South Africans to the post modern times. Development and not politics is the most needed matter today. Current SG like his predecessor are not innovative enough to take ANC to where it wished to find itself. But the SG with his limited intelligence will assist in taking anc to the floor. And will never recovered its strength

derekatkinson20 Jan 10, 2024, 05:45 PM

The wheels are finely turning against the A N C