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Why our children can’t do maths — it is a matter of teachers who cannot or will not teach

Don’t believe everything you read about South Africa’s poor performance in maths and science in the latest international assessments.

Much has been written about the poor performance in South Africa in maths and science since the results of the latest Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS) were announced. Unfortunately, much of this is based on ignorance and misconceptions.

Not last

From the outset, South Africans must understand that we were NOT last out of 195 countries in the world, as implied by others. More than 650,000 pupils of 64 (mostly developed) countries took part in the 2023 TIMSS. South Africa was last among the 64 participating countries.

This does not, however, detract from the fact that the quality of our maths and science is cause for great concern for all who are concerned about education. Pupils who have not mastered the basic skills of reading, writing, maths and science will struggle at high school or any tertiary institution and will not be able to contribute to the economy.

The TIMSS, conducted every four years, assesses maths and science for grades 4 and 8. The International Association for the Assessment of Educational Achievement (IEA) launched the study so that participating countries could monitor their progress in education. As a result, a country knows if there is progress or lack thereof in key subjects such as maths and science. 

The TIMSS also collects data about the home, school and classroom environments, which allows education authorities and governments to assess pupils’ achievement and allows them to plan more effectively when important decisions must be made about education, such as budgets.

Wise men from the East

As with the previous tests, the Asian countries hold the sceptre in grades 4 and 8. In Grade 4 maths, Singapore (615 points) outshone China (607), Hong Kong and Korea (both 594) and Japan (591). In Grade 4 science, Singapore (607) led again, followed by Korea (583), China (573), Turkey (570) and England (556).

In Grade 8 maths, Singapore (605) outshone the others with China (602), Korea (596), Japan (595) and Hong Kong (575) hot on their heels. In Grade 8 science, Singapore topped the list again with 606 points followed by China (572), Japan (557), Korea (545), England and Finland (531).

The biggest winner was China. As a country with 1.4 billion residents whose pupils have beaten the rest of the world in maths and science, you can imagine what it can achieve in four or six years once these pupils have made their mark in society. Think of the race to Mars. Think of computer systems, satellites and missile wars, and you realise that America’s days as a superpower are numbered. China will take over the world. Thus, it makes sense for South Africa to make itself comfortable among the BRICS countries.

Another winner is Turkey, which has made itself known as the new leader on the European continent. The Turks were not only first in Europe but second among the OPEC countries.

The biggest loser was France, which finished last among the European countries. The results produced by Turkey and France are important for us to realise that other countries are also struggling and to know that we too can rise above our circumstances.

SA’s Grade 5 and 9 pupils competing a year lower

In both maths (362) and science (308), South Africa’s achievements were below the international average. A further reason for concern is that we entered Grade 5 and 9 pupils for a test for grades 4 and 8. The reason? After our poor performance in the Progress in International Reading Literacy Study (PIRLS), the IEA recommended that South Africa should rather take part in a study for developing countries.

Even our two top provinces, the Western Cape and Gauteng, performed weaker than four years ago. Maths dropped from 370 in 2019 to 362, and science from 324 to 308.

As a child I was scared of the so-called “word sums”. The one that I remember especially from Grade 4 is: “A farmer takes 100 sheep to the market. Along the way one is eaten by a wolf (!). How many sheep can the farmer now take to the market?” (Answer: 100 – 1 = 99)

When I later taught maths to the lower classes it was remarkable how pupils struggled with: “Double the number 5. (5 x 2 = 10)”. Or: “Halve the number 20. (20 ÷ 2 = 10)”

I realised then that pupils did not understand the words “halve” or “double”; not to mention the long word sums. Before they could thus do the word sums, they first had to decipher the words, and if they could not read they also could not do the maths.

How difficult are the TIMSS questions?

So, what do the questions in the TIMSS look like and are they easy or difficult? It caught me off guard: the sums are much more difficult than in the past. 

Here are a few examples from Grade 5:

John is packing eggs into boxes.

Each box holds 6 eggs.

John has 94 eggs.

What is the smallest number of boxes that he will need?

The pupils require three skills to solve the problem: (i) read with comprehension (in this case the child must also be able to read English which increases the difficulty), (ii) numeracy and (iii) common sense.

If the child does not understand what he reads, he will not be able to do the sum. He must also know his maths to know that this is a division sum (94 ÷ 6 = 15.6). And finally, the child must have common sense to realise that 0.6 means four eggs and an extra box. Thus, the answer is 16 boxes.

For sum number two, five skills are required to solve this maths problem: reading, mapping (she must be able to measure), division, multiplication and reasoning. 

The Grade 4 pupil receives a map on which two towns have been marked: Wellington and Stellenbosch. The scale on the maps shows 1cm: 5km.

a: How many centimetres is it between Wellington and Stellenbosch? (Answer: 10cm).
b: How many kilometres is it between Wellington and Stellenbosch? (10cm x 5km = 50km).
c: If Michael drives at 100km per hour, how long will it take for him to drive from his home in Wellington to his work in Stellenbosch?

100km = 1 hour = 60 minutes.

10km = 6 min (divide by 10).

50km = 30 minutes (multiply by 5). Answer: It will take him 30 minutes.

Findings

The most important findings of the 2023 TIMSS study are:

  • A significant percentage of Grade 4 and 8 pupils worldwide reached the lowest international benchmark for maths and science knowledge in 2023;
  • There is a significant difference between the achievements of boys and girls, with the females bypassing the males in Grade 4 maths;
  • There is a clear link between available resources and the maths and science achievement of Grade 4 and 8 pupils; and
  • Pupils from a higher socioeconomic environment with an abundance of resources fared significantly better than those from a poor environment.

Does the problem lie with our children or our teachers?

If a country like South Africa does so poorly, it is difficult to find a scapegoat because it comes down to a whole education system being on the wrong track. 

Let me start with the one thing that drives me up the wall: TIMSS has found that the schools with the poorest results also had the greatest number of absentee teachers.

A study by Dr Nick Taylor in 268 schools in eight provinces (excluding Gauteng) a few years ago found that many teachers could not answer the maths questions for grades one or two years above the grade they were teaching. Only 53% of Grade 4 maths teachers could answer a simple test about fractions based on the Grade 6 curriculum.

We can say that the rural provinces like Limpopo and the Northern Cape have a shortage of resources and infrastructure. We can blame overcrowded classrooms which make the capturing of knowledge in the foundation phase impossible. As part of my research, I found a class with 136 pupils. In such circumstances the teachers adapt their tuition strategy and pupils are “coached for a test” instead of learning with understanding.

One thing I know: a teacher cannot teach a child if he or she does not have the knowledge; and an absent teacher cannot help a child with maths or reading.

Need for institutional introspection

A child who was in Grade 1 in 2011 when we participated in TIMSS for the first time was in matric in 2023 (if he was one of the lucky ones and among the 30% of pupils who reached matric). 

During this period we participated in four TIMSS studies (2011, 2015, 2019 and 2023) without any significant improvement.

It is time that the South African education system and everyone involved in education – from the minister to the youngest teacher – should do some introspection and ask ourselves hard questions and answer them honestly. Because whatever we are doing and trying to do, is clearly not effective.

South Africans (and I include the government and the media) must stop seeing problems in education as “learners who cannot read, write or do maths”. Rather, it is a matter of teachers who cannot or will not teach.

To me it is clear that the poor achievements in maths and science are in the first place a learning problem and in the second place a tuition problem.

The focus should therefore move from the child to the teachers. If teachers improve their skills, apply lifelong learning, are in the class every day, are prepared and teach, our education will fare better. Like many other things, it is not rocket science. People must just do the work (they are paid for); and the government must fulfil its supervisory role.

Read more: After the Bell: understanding South Africa’s stagnant performance in global education tests

Read more: We cannot fix SA’s broken education system without reflecting on the insights from the past

It is time that the government talks less and starts doing more so that the education environment can improve. This includes fewer overcrowded classes, more resources and more (not fewer) teachers.

Our children did not perform poorly because they are less intelligent or “stupid”, but because the South African government has failed to provide an environment which is conducive to learning.

There is, however, a glimmer of hope. Our Grade 9s improved their maths mark by eight points (from 389 in 2019 to 397) and in the process surpassed a few countries. 

While the TIMSS results confirm the challenge facing our teachers, the improvement among our Grade 9s offers an opportunity to focus on the future with renewed energy and determination. DM

Professor Le Cordeur is retiring as vice-dean: teaching and learning from the University of Stellenbosch at the end of this year. He will stay on as emeritus professor in education at the university and will continue to write for Daily Maverick.

Comments

jackjack12 Jan 7, 2025, 01:39 PM

Believe everything you read about SA's poor math and science poor performance, it is based a factual testing and not on ignorance and misconceptions. It is very easy to find the scapegoat, 30 years of ANC mismanagement with one of the largest per capita educational budgets.

ttshililo2 Jan 8, 2025, 08:57 AM

Your comment is highly myopic and plainly ignorant: Apartheid was so evil it introduced Bantu education to cripple those youngsters- what did those youngsters become, say a matriculation from 1976, teachers and what do you think the ripple effect was for schools those teachers taught in?

Rod MacLeod Jan 8, 2025, 10:05 AM

The ANC has had thirty years to do something about that - and all they did was F*up the education system. Private and model C schools existed before 1994, under Apartheid, and they still exist and thrive today for one simple reason, and you know what that is.

ttshililo2 Jan 8, 2025, 11:23 AM

Have a great day Rod.

Rod MacLeod Jan 8, 2025, 12:49 PM

Thanks, I will. "Projection" is a psychological term where one attributes their own mistakes and shortcomings onto others as a way to protect their ego and avoid taking responsibility for their actions. So, along with your ANC comrades, blame the whiteys - project at will.

Dave Martin Jan 9, 2025, 03:58 PM

Rod, the DA has been running Education in the Western Cape for over a decade and yet their results are not better. Especially considering that the W Cape benefits from not having a former homeland within its jurisdiction.

Rod MacLeod Jan 9, 2025, 04:39 PM

Dave, as you should know, education policy is nationally controlled by DBE and DHET. Provincial education departments are solely responsible for implementing the policies of the national department. They do not control the policy. So "running Education in the Western Cape" isn't what you think.

D Rod Jan 8, 2025, 11:10 AM

I wonder in 2125 if we would still blame Apartheid. FYI, countries and societies that were much more damaged by much more evil systems, managed to pull themselves up and now they are prosperous. What was the key? They shrugged their victim mentality away and got down to work.

ttshililo2 Jan 8, 2025, 11:29 AM

Now, the ruling party & SACP are also guilty in not taking education as seriously as they should. However, once again who are those members of SADTU-those who were crippled so insidiously by the boers. It does not take 30 yrs to wipe out such evilness! Pls think before you type.

Stu McCro Jan 8, 2025, 11:37 AM

I completely agree Tumelo, the '30 years' crew fail to understand the long run consequences of apartheid. However the ANC could have done more to right the effects of bantu education for fledgling teachers - like not close down teachers colleges?

Jubilee 1516 Jan 8, 2025, 12:05 PM

SA black people were the best educated (up to tertiary) black majority on Earth in 1994 given our UN Human Development Index. Before 1953 we struggled to get 300 black Matrics annually, and less than 10% of black kids received education in dubious mission school. Before that-nothing. NO Education.

Jubilee 1516 Jan 8, 2025, 12:10 PM

Study the Cottesloe Declaration 1960. Alan Paton, ZK Matthews attended. Bantu Education caused a dramatic improvement in black literacy. Nobody wants Apartheid back, but we must remain honest, it is very easy to prove it produced the best educated (up to tertiary) black majority on Earth.

Sheila Vrahimis Jan 9, 2025, 07:35 AM

I speak as someone who has assessed "bantu" education scripts. That is not to be blamed for today's poor performance. In 1994 EVERYTHING that existed regarding teaching was THROWN OUT in favour of Outcomes Based Education, commencing rapid deterioration in learning. Failure visited on learners

D'Esprit Dan Jan 9, 2025, 01:17 PM

Spot on - in concert with SADTU which basically hates kids and is only interested in politics.

D'Esprit Dan Jan 9, 2025, 01:13 PM

Kader Asmal and other exile 'experts' forced Outcomes Based Education onto SA just as the rest of the world ditched it as a failure. Throw in SADTU who have zero interest in education and all in politics and it's easy to see why our education is a mess. Ideology over excellence.

Middle aged Mike Jan 9, 2025, 01:41 PM

Would be interested to hear if you attribute any blame for our current state to the people who have been in absolute control of state education for the last 30 years.

Brett Redelinghuys Jan 7, 2025, 02:59 PM

Study post war Japan and how they reformed their education system and therefore made themselves what they are today. SA "could" copy that model, but our leaders lack the discipline and drive to do so.

in Jan 7, 2025, 04:36 PM

In 1960, South Korea, after a brutal Japanese invasion and the subsequent Korean War, was poorer than Zambia. Today, we drive in South Korean cars, some of the best selling cellphones in SA are Korean, and there is no comparison between the two countries. Africans, however, chose to be victims.

ttshililo2 Jan 8, 2025, 11:24 AM

the Japanese actually left. The same can’t be said for this country- those who brutalised and violated stayed and are thriving from the misery it has HUGE part in perpetuating.

Rob Bayliss Jan 8, 2025, 12:29 PM

Instead of wasting time and effort on blame (how does that improve anything) rather determine what needs to be done to improve the outcomes and what/who needs to be changed or removed.

Jubilee 1516 Jan 8, 2025, 12:35 PM

The first brutalizers are also still here, along with those you refer to, and they brought no education to the indigenous San people as they had none to bring. Singapore suffered far worse oppression and segregation and denial of any education, yet.......I wonder how your comments pass moderation.

D'Esprit Dan Jan 9, 2025, 01:26 PM

Um, actually the ANC 'retired' thousands of highly qualified teachers in SA because they were white and put in place SADTU teachers without the requisite knowledge or experience. And Angie Motshekga, Verwoerd's darling, drove home inadequacy as an aspiration.

Middle aged Mike Jan 9, 2025, 01:31 PM

Shame sounds like there's some regret there about not having been able to eradicate our equivalent of the japanese. SA would have been much better off now without them ne?

virginia crawford Jan 7, 2025, 04:41 PM

Look at China over the last 30 years! It's called work!

D Rod Jan 8, 2025, 11:11 AM

Easier to play victim and blame everyone else.

Richard Bryant Jan 7, 2025, 03:19 PM

The final analysis should include the following question. What percentage of those teachers who are regularly absent or cannot themselves pass tests in maths and science 2 grades higher than they teach are members if SADTU?

D'Esprit Dan Jan 9, 2025, 01:27 PM

100% - the only pass mark SADTU will ever achieve!

Peter Forder Jan 7, 2025, 03:42 PM

Thank you Professor Le Cordeur !!! "Teachers" who don't know HOW to Teach & "Teachers" who absent the classroom habitually ... both lots happily receiving Monthly Pay are disgraceful and sinful. It is They who are responsible for our Future Generation of Adults!

Andrew Joubert Jan 7, 2025, 03:44 PM

Most interesting article by Prof. Le Cordeur. As a parent, and educationist, I have always believed, and agree with Prof. Le Cordeur that "... it is not rocket-science. People must just do the work (they are paid for); and the government must fulfil its supervisory role." Just do the Work!

Stephen Mcbride Jan 8, 2025, 10:38 AM

I taught in various "Departs". White schools <30, colored schools 45-50, Black school 60-70 (heard of 90), Ciskei schools. 70-80. Education before liberation/ Education for Liberation was a real need in the schools. School sizes "improved" to 45-50. BUT ANC has not done its job

in Jan 7, 2025, 04:35 PM

The East Asians' excellence in maths is proving Tatu Vanhanen and Richard Lynn correct every year when the rankings come out. Genetics is destiny.

Stu McCro Jan 8, 2025, 11:33 AM

Um DLM, i think you may have missed the jist of the article here... you could also look at Terman's genius study for a contrary view if you brave enough... also IQ is not straight cut correlated to genetics...

Stu McCro Jan 8, 2025, 11:35 AM

Once again you have let your bias cloud your contribution...

Jubilee 1516 Jan 8, 2025, 06:11 PM

Hard, pre-Cancel culture, peer reviewed science can never br biased, And look around you, and at pre-historty.......

Jubilee 1516 Jan 8, 2025, 06:10 PM

Well said. The hard science proves you 100% correct.

virginia crawford Jan 7, 2025, 04:40 PM

It is too sad for words. Many terrible and lazy teachers is certainly central to the problem, but the question is how do they get away with it? Union protection? How do they get appointed in the first place? Why are fit and healthy teachers being forced to retire? China was poor and uneducated but.

Pierre Rossouw Jan 7, 2025, 04:55 PM

We have known for 30 years that teachers of mathematics are grossly incompetent. Those who are competent in maths do not go into teaching, they go to valuable and rewarding jobs in business and industry. A toxic mindset inculcated by those in power who in turn are maths and science illiterate.

ttshililo2 Jan 8, 2025, 09:06 AM

It’s honestly breathtaking how non- blacks rationalise the vileness of our past in this country- like two year olds. What happened prior to 1994 regarding the education of blks and those who ended up as our current teachers? The history of our problem do nt begin in 94 & yes the anc has messed up!

Grumpy Old Man Jan 8, 2025, 10:42 AM

What is interesting is the phenomena of claiming excellence in the one breath but excusing failure in the next! The impact of Apartheid is real but this cannot be an excuse for the Govt 'failing' our kids and stunting their futures

ttshililo2 Jan 8, 2025, 11:46 AM

Okay I get you: “Yes, white racism and apartheid was bad but honestly it wasn’t that bad” thanks for the clarification.

Grumpy Old Man Jan 8, 2025, 02:14 PM

Nope, that's not what I was suggesting! One cannot celebrate a Tintswalo without also acknowledging the others the system has failed, otherwise we continue to condone failure and say it's okay for our kids to receive less than an optimal education

Stephen Mcbride Jan 8, 2025, 10:43 AM

Lots of Math teachers have Matric Math or 1st year Maths in the "nonwhite" schools. Many schools do not have a single teacher who have completed 1st year Math but teach Math. Some of them teach well but do not have in depth knowledge. Other schools 6 with Math 3. ANC has not corrected.

Mike Newton Jan 7, 2025, 05:11 PM

50 years ago I learned maths. At a basic level we could multiply, divide, add and subtract. Children today are taught concepts that do not help them in the real world. They count in 6's but cant say 6*8=48. I blame those who tried to teach pure maths not arithmetic.

Ingrid Kemp Jan 7, 2025, 06:21 PM

Some Teachers are not capable of assisting children in the basic understanding of Maths. Unfortunately Maths is like a building, all the bricks have to be there, to complete the process. I say this observing & helping a Grade 5 pupil at a private school. So this is not only a Government issue.

rmayes Jan 7, 2025, 07:03 PM

Other articles on this subject show the second placed country to be Chinese Taipei (aka Taiwan, population 23m) and not he People's Republic of China (pop 1,4b). Which is correct?

Colin Braude Jan 7, 2025, 09:14 PM

The ANC relies upon SA Democratic Teachers' Union members to act as temporary IEC election officials. That is why township parents who can afford it send their kids to "Model C" schools, ANC cadres support private schools, while schools for the lumpens would make Dr Verwoerd blush.

Middle aged Mike Jan 9, 2025, 01:45 PM

Yip, the ANC's Bentley and X5 brigade are well represented at the cripplingly expensive schools my daughter attended and against which she played sport.

Peter Wanliss Jan 7, 2025, 09:40 PM

Some things to add: Apartheid education; Liberation before Education and the systematic erosion of school management; the closure of teachers' colleges on the assumption that universities would train better teachers; OBE; the sale of promotion posts; resistance to quality control; . . .

Sheila Vrahimis Jan 9, 2025, 07:38 AM

BRAVO!!

Is there hope South Africa? Jan 7, 2025, 09:56 PM

Surely the answer is to have the best teachers recorded lesson by lesson and then have the kids watch the lessons online? Then ALL kids will have access to the best teaching and current (incompetent) teachers can just mark and assist?

Stephen Mcbride Jan 8, 2025, 10:48 AM

Teaching is more than standing in front of the class. Most of it is remedial work. Seeing what the learner did and explaining why incorrect then letting them figure out how to correct. 10% at the board. 60% them working themselves. 30% correcting mistakes and misunderstanding.

Stephen Mcbride Jan 8, 2025, 10:58 AM

TIMSS has found that the schools with the poorest results also had the greatest number of absentee teachers: Teachers where learners are weak have the most stress so higher absenteeism. I was at those school. So not sure which comes first

Rodshep Jan 7, 2025, 09:58 PM

Lazy teachers, who don't teach, can't teach, can't be fired. Thank you SADTU and the ANC government. How many schools have been built in the last thirty years, can some one please tell me. Private schools if you can afford them is the only way to get your children educated sadly.

superjase Jan 14, 2025, 12:12 PM

there are plenty of excellent public schools. something they have in common is strong leadership. great headmasters make for great education.

Teresa K Jan 7, 2025, 10:09 PM

The quality of learning will never exceed the quality of teaching. Start there.

ca Jan 8, 2025, 06:47 AM

Compliments of SADTU and the ANC are their voting fodder.

Theresa Swash Swash Jan 8, 2025, 09:52 AM

Well said. Start at the core of the problem and most other issues will be solved.

Rod MacLeod Jan 8, 2025, 10:02 AM

Thoughtful article. But as we see it, the education powers that be are pre-occupied with hammering some white school girls in Pretoria for their WhatsApp posts and destroying the career of a highly experienced white educator.

Smnaicke Jan 8, 2025, 10:14 AM

It is about cultural and social capital. The education system should take this into consideration when developing a narrative for education. At this time only the elite schools perform well whilst 60% of the schools are working class.

Stephen Mcbride Jan 8, 2025, 10:31 AM

A lot of what is said is true. Certain schools have 10% teachers absenteeism. Same for learners. No testing competency of teachers. Teachers teach subjects not trained for. Teachers bogged down with unnecessary paper work. 45+ per class. No plans for improvement.

andrew.farrer Jan 8, 2025, 11:52 AM

Would be worthwhile to see the difference of results from private, model C, and std government schools.

luke17 Jan 8, 2025, 12:26 PM

The after shocks of Apartheid will last forever if it is up to the ANC, and there is an element of truth in that. However, the ANC has had 30 years of oppurtunities to upgrade the education system, and results have gone from bad to worse. No doubt, apartheid will get the blame for that.

Sbusiso Nkabinde Jan 8, 2025, 12:51 PM

Asian countries excel in math and science due to cultural emphasis on education, rigorous systems, highly trained teachers, early STEM focus, and societal values of discipline and hard work. Mzansi can learn a thing or two from them.

Middle aged Mike Jan 9, 2025, 01:34 PM

Hear bloody hear!

Penny Abbott Jan 8, 2025, 02:35 PM

I totally agree, the problem is Foundation Phase teachers who cannot teach reading and maths, even young recently qualified teachers. The university education of Foundation Phase teachers is not getting it right, and they probably don't have enough classroom teaching practice.

Rodney Green Jan 8, 2025, 05:35 PM

My full comment on this comparison went into great depth and came to over 2500 characters - only when I tried to post did I see the limit of 300 characters - pity as I feel that it could have contributed much to the discussion and reasons for SAs dismal performance.

johnbpatson Jan 8, 2025, 03:44 PM

Well said prof, but the "who will teach the teachers" question is, in South Africa, highly political, due to powerful, ANC affiliated unions. The idea that teachers' training colleges, issuing four year diplomas (or even two yr) instead of degrees, can be instituted is rejected out of hand.

Rodney Green Jan 8, 2025, 05:29 PM

It may also be insightful to compare SAs maths and science performances with that of neighbouring Zimbabwe. Both countries have much in common, although SAs schools are far more resourced in terms of infrastructure, science and computer labs, school libraries, textbooks and learning materials; ...

Rod MacLeod Jan 9, 2025, 08:23 PM

nope - you really don't want that embarassment ...

helani Jan 9, 2025, 08:00 AM

I had to resign from my departmental post in 2003 and since then I can't get a departmental post again. South Africa is effectively shutting out highly qualified, skilled and motivated educators with this senseless law. Let us back in. We can help.

Middle aged Mike Jan 9, 2025, 01:25 PM

"More than 650,000 pupils of 64 (mostly developed) countries took part in the 2023 TIMSS. South Africa was last among the 64 participating countries." I think it extremely likely that we would come last in the world if expenditure per pupil was factored into the evaluation.

Matt 218 Jan 9, 2025, 01:58 PM

Scapegoats are: placing blame on someone/something who/which was totally innocent, yet carries the burden of blame (in layman's terms). The ANC are not the scapegoat, but the purpotrator

Werner Hautmann Jan 11, 2025, 10:51 AM

It does not help to have more teachers and they do not teach, don't want to teach or are incompetent, we have a lot of these teachers already.

Deon de Wet-Roos Jan 11, 2025, 08:10 PM

With the South African government you mean the ANC. The ANC has no self respect nor do the people that support it. This is part of the blowback when you make stupid decisions. Same with the Palestinians. At this stage even Bantu education would be better.