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Ramaphosa the peacemaker soothes fiery Parliament in Sona response

Responding to the post-Sona debates in Parliament on Thursday, President Cyril Ramaphosa called on the nation to stand together against a ‘harsh global wind’.
Ramaphosa the peacemaker soothes fiery Parliament in Sona response President Cyril Ramaphosa reply to the debate on his State of the Nation Address . The reply follows a two-day debate on the address by Members of Parliament and takes place during the joint sitting of the National Assembly and the National Council of Provinces. (Photo: Phando Jikelo / RSA Parliament)

The post-Sona debates are traditionally an occasion at which fiery rhetoric and brutal put-downs fly between the nation’s politicians. This year, despite a broad consensus that President Cyril Ramaphosa was correct to stand up to US intimidation, was no exception.

There was EFF MP Omphile Maotwe suggesting to the President: “Mr Ramaphosa, why don’t you rather keep quiet and go look after your Ankole [cattle] in Phala Phala.”

There was National Coloured Congress leader Fadiel Adams claiming of the minister of agriculture: “A white man’s sheep is more important than coloured lives to John Steenhuisen.”

And there was DA chief whip George Michalakis, responding to the speech of famously diminutive Deputy Public Works Minister Sihle Zikalala with the words: “You tried hard, but you came up short.”

The bickering seemed to extend to internal party dynamics too, with SABC reporting that MK deputy leader John Hlophe was aggrieved at having his long-prepared speech replaced at the last minute with one allegedly written by national organiser Floyd Shivambu. The speech, as previously reported, was devoted almost entirely to singing the praises of former president Jacob Zuma.

In his responses to the speeches on Thursday, Ramaphosa sought to paste over the divisions.

National Dialogue incoming

“This debate illustrated the dangers of retreating to corners, isolating ourselves in ideological, cultural, racial and linguistic enclaves, and hardly ever engaging beyond our immediate circles,” said Ramaphosa.

It was a moment, he suggested, at which the forthcoming National Dialogue took on a new importance.

Ramaphosa first mentioned the plan at his inauguration in June 2024 and affirmed his commitment to it in December.

As yet, there have been few details forthcoming as to what exactly the National Dialogue will entail. In Ramaphosa’s last statement on the subject, he said it would “enable a conversation among citizens on shaping our country’s future developmental path”, and “address pressing challenges such as gender-based violence and femicide, social fragmentation, racism, homophobia and sexism, violence and instability”.

That sounds like yet another talk-shop — but on Thursday Ramaphosa told Parliament that the National Dialogue was intended to “result in concrete processes to become a more united and stronger South Africa in the face of many political, social and economic challenges, both globally and locally”.

GNU will not always agree

There were moments in the two days of Sona debates this week where tensions within the Government of National Unity (GNU) seemed to be on full display — both interpersonally, as with the conflict between Zikalala and his boss, Public Works Minister Dean Macpherson, and in terms of the signing off on recent pieces of contentious legislation: NHI, Bela and the Expropriation Act.

Ramaphosa told Parliament that this was not a cause for concern.

“It is expected that the 10 parties who make up the GNU, with their very different perspectives and ideological views, will not always agree and will sometimes feel the need, on platforms such as this, to talk to their different constituencies. Now despite these differences, these political parties are working well together in the GNU, whether people like it or not. We are finding ways of mediating our differences,” said the President.

Turning to the land expropriation issue, Ramaphosa sketched the history of forced removals in South Africa and the accompanying trauma to make the point that this could never be allowed to happen again — including through the Expropriation Act.

“That is why we have a Constitution that prohibits the arbitrary deprivation of property,” said Ramaphosa.

“That is why we have a Constitution that requires just and equitable compensation be paid in the event of expropriation for a public purpose or in the public interest.”

Later, he emphasised the fact that all the controversial recent pieces of legislation had passed through Parliament — although the DA is set to argue in court that when it comes to the Expropriation Act, the legal process was not followed properly in the National Council of Provinces.

Ramaphosa said the Constitution was clear that the President has to sign off on Bills passed by Parliament unless he is advised that they won’t pass Constitutional muster, regardless of disagreement from other parties.

“We should be proud of our legislative architecture and process, which subjects every draft Bill to several layers of debate, consideration, scrutiny, as well as public consultation,” said the President.

In a possible dig at the recent flurry of executive orders signed by US President Donald Trump, Ramaphosa added: “We should be proud that we are a democracy that is governed by a thorough process of approving our laws and not the arbitrary whims of a ruler.”

Transformation will happen, so suck it up

Ramaphosa expressed what seemed to be genuine frustration just once, causing him to deviate from his prepared speech, on the topic of critics of the government’s racial transformation policies.

There has been a particular hubbub around the proposed R20-billion annual Transformation Fund.

The government remained committed to transformation “whether people like it or not”, said Ramaphosa.

“Sometimes people say, ‘You have restituted land to people but the land that you have restituted has gone fallow, it’s not being utilised’. And then they say, ‘That is so because you never gave assistance, financial support or otherwise’. And when we want to set up a transformation fund, the very same people are against it. How is that possible?”

South Africa against the world

Ramaphosa also used his response to double down on the sentiment he delivered in last week’s Sona in the face of threatened sanctions from the US: South Africa will not be bullied.

“I would also like to repeat: we will not be bullied, by anyone within the country or outside, from our intent to work together,” he said.

“At a time like this we need to stand united as a nation, particularly now when we are facing a harsh global wind.”

In a rebuke to AfriForum and Solidarity, the President said: “This is not the time for any of us to rush off to foreign lands to lay complaints about issues that we ourselves can solve here in this country. We need South African solutions to South African problems.” DM

Comments

Con Tester Feb 13, 2025, 09:54 PM

His reassurances aren’t worth the proverbial paper they weren’t printed on. He has said precisely nothing about the illegality of recent informal landgrabs prompted by the passing of the Expropriation Act, which is an insidiously devious piece of legislation, favouring him & Co.

Dillon Birns Feb 14, 2025, 08:58 AM

Correlation isn't causation. AfriForum’s own spokesperson noted that "shack farming" has been an issue for years, predating the Expropriation Act, which does not legalise this practice. It's driven by a much older need for restitution (and kneecapped by corruption, bad governance, etc. etc.)

Con Tester Feb 14, 2025, 09:13 AM

There's a recent news clip where landgrabs in Limpopo are explicitly justified by way of the Expropriation Act, yet Ramaposer & Co. say nothing about the illegality of it or that the EA doesn't work that way. In any rational appraisal, that constitutes consent, possibly condonation, by silence.

Annika Larsson Feb 13, 2025, 10:21 PM

Anyone who believes Cyril Ramaphosa, is a fool and deserves all of the disappointment that will surely come their way. Shame, too, on the DA for buying into the EWC lies and defending what WSM has called "by far the most dangerous and legislatively cunning piece of legislation passed by the ANC."

Nick Griffon Feb 14, 2025, 08:40 AM

Completely agree Anika

mafeo Feb 14, 2025, 05:03 PM

But these legislations can be challenged in public courts. This legislation as opposed to the one it replaces empowers property owners to escalate matters to court if they are not happy with compensation offered. Believe it or not there’s still compensation.

SHIMIKEITH Feb 14, 2025, 12:34 PM

the worst morons of all times, are the people that always want to force their ideology down other people's throat, lest they call them "fools".

fraser.heesom Feb 14, 2025, 12:31 AM

He still thinks hes got a majority..... arrogant beyond words.... Trump will crucify the Anc wait...

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 07:31 AM

I literally can't wait! Trump is turning the US gov upside down! It's completely mind blowing what he, Musk and their army of Co workers are discovering in every dept they exami need! No wonder Dems are panicking and protesting...their shameful fraud, abuse and wasteful spending is being exposed!!

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 07:33 AM

Can you imagine what DOGE would find in our government! Wish we could hire them to help us root out fraud, corruption and mismanagement!!

Dillon Birns Feb 14, 2025, 09:05 AM

A changing of the guard is all it would be. US elites are running their own State Capture playbook — just look at the $400m in armour-plated Teslas. A shake-up in US governance might be needed, but thinking Trump & co. are selfless is like believing a fox is guarding the henhouse out of kindness.

Johnny Bravo Feb 14, 2025, 09:46 AM

Rubbish. They are doing exactly what the people asked them to do and gave them a mandate to achieve. Nobody here asked for Guptas, only the ANC.

Johnny Bravo Feb 14, 2025, 09:53 AM

And not only that, their 'state capture' is specifically designed to reduce the size of their bloated government, ours is only growing with more incompetence by the day. Open your eyes dude, they are polar opposites.

Richard Kennard Feb 14, 2025, 12:21 PM

Beg to differ...its State capture all the way.

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 12:24 PM

Rubbish indeed!! Would you like to know who gave Elon the contract for the Armour plated Teslas? Joe Biden!!! And why did he give it to Elon? Because his products and service were the cheapest and the best. You been listening to TDS on steroids Rachel Maddow too much lately?

ralppeters Feb 14, 2025, 09:06 AM

It would probably be harder to find the above board items.

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 12:31 PM

Yes Trump said out 200 as an example they found 3 above board items

jcscholtz123 Feb 14, 2025, 05:37 AM

Well ANC also had to drum up support internationally against discrimination

jcscholtz123 Feb 14, 2025, 05:37 AM

Well ANC also had to drum up support internationally against discrimination

Laurence Erasmus Feb 14, 2025, 06:36 AM

Cyril fails to acknowledge that the pace of transformation and restitution has been severely diminished these past 30 years by the looting, corruption and theft of public resources, collapse of SOEs and municipalities, and a general skills shortage, all under the watch of the ANC and its cadres.

Mark Hammick Feb 14, 2025, 07:16 AM

Absolutely spot on. Measure the ANC's "success" in number of failed municipalities, the collapse of the Rand against major currencies, the number of unemployed, the gargantuan amounts paid to SOE's, the list is endless. The sheep have truly voted for the wolves.

Betsy Kuhn Feb 14, 2025, 12:06 PM

wish I had a direct email to donald trump

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 12:35 PM

He would sort out the ANC! Musk and Trump are no state capturers...very ignorant and blinkered comment. They are actually doing what Obama, Clinton, Joe all said they wanted to do...ie clean up a massively bloated and corrupt bureaucracy(which is precisely what we suffer from in SA) They never did!

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 12:38 PM

And further, they are systematically UNCOVERING eye watering corruption, wasteful expenditure and out and out corruption never before exposed. That's why the Dem bureaucrats are protesting, screaming, swearing and bringing lawsuits: they are petrified of being caught and exposed. Shocking behaviour

R IA Feb 14, 2025, 07:04 AM

What you say always makes sense, Mr President, but your words never seem to result in sensible legislation or actions. Also, if restituted land is lying fallow, whose fault is that. And now a transformation fund is needed? So that the same mistakes can be made? Let's see something concrete.

Middle aged Mike Feb 14, 2025, 12:16 PM

"So that the same mistakes can be made?". Do you think the ANC has done what's it done for the last 25 years or so by mistake? They have been organised around looting the public purse since the arms deal was being structured in Mandela's administration. There have been no mistakes.

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 07:20 AM

Trump is not bullying us, Cyril. He is simply laying out conditions for continuing aid and trade concessions. Take it or leave it. Secondly, he is not ruling by arbitrary whims...he was mandated to do what he's doing by a majority of Americans...ie fulfilling campaign promises on which he won.

Peter Atller Feb 14, 2025, 07:55 AM

Trump has bigger problems, while we go monkey over our societal fault lines being agitated by external forces, we just an act in their game of distraction. Musk Thiel Vance is where focus should be...Donny is really the boy in whatever they have cooked up and now executing.

Johnny Bravo Feb 14, 2025, 10:39 AM

Pit toilets and sweet potatoe based HIV treatments are 'terrible things'. We see you Peter.

Peter Atller Feb 14, 2025, 11:24 AM

better push that up the ladder, so it can be added to Donny's "terrible things "talking points list, back to reality - while you focus on the distractions, something is happening right before your eyes, so I have to disagree, you do not "see" anything but what your emotions are fueling.

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 07:23 AM

Further to that, Cyril is angry about Solidarity and Afriform complaining in foreign lands about issues we can solve here in SA. Well, Cyril, you have had years and years to sort these issues out. WHY HAVE YOU NOT DONE IT? He is the ultimate smug, arrogant, out of touch hypocrite.

Stephanie West Feb 14, 2025, 08:45 AM

100 agree

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 07:28 AM

Cyril might promise no land grabs and forced removals ever again, but what will the next president do with EWC? It's a serious danger to our country. Cyrils promises are dangerously false. Our only hope is Donald Trump! Keep up the pressure, Donald, in our country, yours, and the world! Amazing man

John P Feb 14, 2025, 10:29 AM

Are you a paid praise singer or just besotted?

Johnny Bravo Feb 14, 2025, 10:42 AM

Do you have pit toilets at your child's school John?

John P Feb 14, 2025, 11:33 AM

What on earth has that got to do with my comment?

Richard Kennard Feb 14, 2025, 12:23 PM

Besotted

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 12:43 PM

Richard and John, I am neither besotted nor a praise singer, just well up on the facts, and happy that at last a very powerful man is a force for good rather than evil which is so often the case, hence the present state of our world. I am an advocate for common sense which Trump brings in spades.

Richard Kennard Feb 14, 2025, 02:13 PM

There are facts & then there are facts. Have you seen that pathetic press secretary try & present the facts via Musk's twitter account & flash screen grabs of accounts which are not vetted for corrupt activity?

Andrew Blaine Feb 14, 2025, 07:36 AM

Most, if not all, legislation is open to interpretation so please will somebody explain what happens to expropriation "in the public interest" becomes "in favour of transformation"?

werc Feb 14, 2025, 08:42 AM

"Public interest" literally means anything you want it to mean. The vagueness is intentional. The buffet is open.

Otto Correct Feb 14, 2025, 10:31 AM

yup, like it's in the Public Interest to Expropriate Johann Ruperts bank accounts as a means to feed the poor!

gerhardkrug Feb 14, 2025, 08:19 AM

Nice to see this piece of Cyril propaganda masquerading as journalism getting called out in the comments. He has lied and failed for 6 years. Every metric has SA down since he came to power. Why are these propagandists do enamoured with him?

Karl Sittlinger Feb 14, 2025, 09:28 AM

I am surprised DM has started letting people comment again.

Rob Bayliss Feb 14, 2025, 08:39 AM

Windbag, as he said!

Stephanie West Feb 14, 2025, 08:43 AM

The ANC creates its own winds, and then blames anything and everything else possible. They will not take ownership. The GNU is complicit. Alternatively, our government could create economic growth. Blame is however easier, quicker and cheaper than a solution for it's citizens.

Nails It Feb 14, 2025, 08:46 AM

We will happily contribute to an additional fund if it is used contract US detectives and prosecutors to come and actually prosecute the corrupt and return stolen funds. If the looting stops, there will be funds to invest in the economy so that it can grow and the entire country can benefit.

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 12:45 PM

Exactly!

Johnny Bravo Feb 14, 2025, 09:02 AM

All I heard was we're massively corrupt, suck it. I would have idealogical sympathy if not for the constant unending breaking of the law and the pure evil of the 'pit toilet' mentality.

Con Tester Feb 14, 2025, 09:07 AM

Never mind that AGOA is next on the list. Then we’ll see how our ANC govt brainiacs, who will be the last ones to feel the pinch, will spin SA’s trade deficit with China making up for our huge trade surplus with the USA. But hey, as long as “WE WILL NOT BE BULLIED,” it’s all good, right?

Betsy Kuhn Feb 14, 2025, 10:19 AM

we will not be bullied...but the ANC Comrades bullies SA.....Then Comrades can say Trump se moer....they have nothing between the ears...they show it over and over again every time they open their mouths....how on earth can we respect these people...there is no way

Martin Botha Feb 14, 2025, 09:08 AM

Trump putting the cat among the pigeons ! Our dear Prez should realize by now that not all of us are puppets on his string.

iahrends Feb 14, 2025, 10:00 AM

I can't help wondering if you and most of the above commenters wouldn't be happier living in the USA under a president you seem to admire so much.

Johnny Bravo Feb 14, 2025, 10:23 AM

I can't help but think that you actively support pit toilets, corruption and feeding our HIV patients sweet potatoes. vOv

Richard Kennard Feb 14, 2025, 12:26 PM

You are repeating yourself...its a simple question ...would you prefer living in the US in maybe a Red State under Trump?

Paddy Ross Feb 14, 2025, 11:10 AM

How nice to read a sensible comment after so many witless comments above. Thank you, Ima.

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 12:47 PM

Do some research and discover why we admire him. He would sort out the ANC before you could say "corrupt cadres"...and then wouldn't our beloved country be a much better place! We wish!!!

Richard Kennard Feb 14, 2025, 02:21 PM

So why does one admire Trump? Can it be that Trump is led by his Christian values?

z889 Feb 14, 2025, 09:11 AM

“A harsh global wind” pretty much self induced by the ANC government, utterly unable to read the room both globally and domestically.

z889 Feb 14, 2025, 09:18 AM

SA ANC must stop it’s whining about being bullied, it’s not bullying, - not near, it’s a sobering course correction but the too arrogant entitled ANC is unable to to see that…and they going pay dearly in coming elections more so.

Colin Braude Feb 14, 2025, 09:29 AM

In a true display of "alternative facts" Davis cites her own article as "broad consensus" when the article reports the contrary. DM at its best agendarised bad reporting. For the record, a bipartisan bill linking SA support for Putin, Xi, Iran & Hamas to AGOA came before Congress in Feb 2024

Johnny Bravo Feb 14, 2025, 09:44 AM

Indeed. But that's how propaganda works. Say the thing enough until people believe it. Use broad sweeping statements that make humans think other humans agree. Straw-man an enemy (Trump) and gather people to you.

Richard Kennard Feb 14, 2025, 12:32 PM

Oh the irony. Does the stolen election repeat to ad nauseum ring any bells?

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 12:53 PM

That is exactly how the TDS legacy media works both here and in the US. Then Elon discovers that Bidens gov has been contributing to some Far left publications. Go figure. I received an email from Ferial Hafajee wanting support for DM...she actually said they need it to support balanced journalism..

Vakele Ntshalintshali Feb 14, 2025, 09:40 AM

Solve corruption- slow down on Putin and annexation of Ukraine (ancyl)-be at least honest - ngiya mkhumbula U Thabo.Mbeki. Bongomafin land case - ngonyama rents - today we are scared of black leaders more than white leaders - taxi industry burns busses - cops do nothing - Bekhi whatsup-delete

Betsy Kuhn Feb 14, 2025, 10:15 AM

scary,,,but facts

Sheila Vrahimis Feb 14, 2025, 12:50 PM

sad state of affairs that anc has brought country to "we are scared of black leaders more than white.."

Betsy Kuhn Feb 14, 2025, 09:43 AM

Stand Together!!! Really, but new laws get signed without asking us what we think... Like the ned med law...Really ....They cant even bring state hospitals up to the standard where it was before it got run down by and goverment,,,Forget your stupid ideas and fix existing hospitals

Betsy Kuhn Feb 14, 2025, 09:44 AM

ANC mentality....says it all

molyone Feb 14, 2025, 09:49 AM

“It is expected that the 10 parties who make up the GNU, with their very different perspectives and ideological views.." - And therein Folks is the problem - Politics and ideologies that are Party First and Citizen X totally out of the picture !!!!

Hilary Morris Feb 14, 2025, 10:40 AM

What an angry and ill tempered bunch of comments. Trump contagion? He is a vile, demented, evil man and it is scary how many Saffers believe his crap! Wake up people, he'll destroy USA and many others before his dementia finally is beyond ignoring. Ramaphosa? Constrained by corrupt party.

Paddy Ross Feb 14, 2025, 11:14 AM

Agree! "There are none so blind as those who will not see".

Annika Larsson Feb 14, 2025, 11:17 AM

Cyril’s hands aren't clean. There’s an astonishing level of starry-eyed trust in his words, despite his history repeatedly betraying him. How so many people don’t see it is beyond me. Robert Hare’s book “Snakes in Suits” gives a glimpse of the type of individual we have for a president.

keith.ciorovich Feb 14, 2025, 12:26 PM

I agree with your comment Paddy. Why are you so blind that you cannot comprehend that our President and his comrades have and continue to loot and destroy SA.

Middle aged Mike Feb 14, 2025, 11:49 AM

Acute Ramaphoria detected.

Knowledgeispower RSA Feb 14, 2025, 01:01 PM

Would you like to back up your TDS description of Trump? The man who has stopped men in women's sports, stopped allowing murderers and rapists to illegally flood US, is determined to find the 350 000 lost children trafficked over the border and never seen again, cleaning outmassive gov corruption??

Richard Kennard Feb 14, 2025, 02:26 PM

You do realise that he himself is a felon & just pardoned 1500 fellow felons...some of which have already committed further crimes

Hilary Morris Feb 14, 2025, 07:20 PM

Those are not facts! Just Trump magaspeak! Actual facts show "murderers and rapists" are more likely to be Americans. Trump doesn't care about lost children - or in fact anything that doesn't glorify his ego. Seriously......

Jill Davies Feb 15, 2025, 07:27 AM

Fully, fully agree. And at the moment he is busy selling Ukraine down the river!

Richard Kennard Feb 15, 2025, 02:06 PM

Could Trump please explain the art of the deal visa vie Ukraine? All I see is concessions to Putin.

vermaak.andr Feb 14, 2025, 11:38 AM

So explain how you failed at land distribution, failed at governing, now you want to set aside 20 billion to be stolen claiming it's to sort out the problem you made.... I would prefer orange man over this chump of a puppet.

brend Feb 14, 2025, 11:42 AM

Transformation is critical, however money gets Looted before it reaches the people who need it. Cyril, why are you not arresting the looters in the ANC? Look at the Vrede Dairy Project!!!

Middle aged Mike Feb 14, 2025, 11:47 AM

He's a nothing but a slippery fairy lullabye whisperer heading a criminal syndicate. The DM does itself and its contributors a disservice expending resources on his blatherings. I would very much like it if I could specify that my contribution could only be used for the investigative journalism.

Pieter van de Venter Feb 14, 2025, 12:28 PM

It is so nice too see a president of ours wagging his finger again!! Unfortunately Cupcake, your attempt at PW Botha fails horribly short of convincing. But, at least, you tried.

Sheila Vrahimis Feb 14, 2025, 01:01 PM

"we will not be bullied.." even if it costs SA tens of thousands of jobs, possible 35 000 in citrus industry alone. unemployment scary, poverty shameful but "we will not be bullied" ego, arrogance and "i don't care a s&!t for SA"

Con Tester Feb 14, 2025, 01:26 PM

Trump might be an insufferable narcissist, but a naïf he isn’t. Instead of winding in its neck and devising a four-year path for navigating his foibles, our infinitely wise GNU, including the DA, thumps its chest. China isn’t SA’s trade saviour, should AGOA privileges fall next.

Deon de Wet-Roos Feb 14, 2025, 01:10 PM

It is interesting that DM has stopped comments on many of the articles related to Afrikaners. It's OK for Max to quote Hendrik Briebouw but not for the rest? Fact is, we don't trust Ramaphosa so irrespective of the soothing sounds he makes regarding EWC, NHI etc., he remains ANC, the enemy.

John P Feb 14, 2025, 02:36 PM

Comments seem to have been stopped on anything controversial such as the Middle East/Israel, Trump and more.

Rob Wilson Feb 15, 2025, 12:41 PM

Trump is leading the equivalent of a hostile takeover of a bloated private corporation needing downsizing, and he is using Musk as his change agent. The time of the $11,000 US government toilet is over. The US taxpayer voted him in to do just that. Everyone is going to feel it.

Jacques Wessels Feb 16, 2025, 06:30 PM

Politicians iro the colour of their tshirts cannot bring development / jobs / good governance/service delivery. Citizens need to take accountability for allowing politicians to govern without a counter balance via civil society organisations engage at every opportunity via rate payers etc RISE