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‘I want the blood of an Afrikaner’ — Tshwane council meeting descends into chaos

A City of Tshwane council meeting on Thursday was postponed indefinitely after racial threats of violence by an EFF councillor who said he wanted the ‘blood of an Afrikaner’.
‘I want the blood of an Afrikaner’ — Tshwane council meeting descends into chaos EFF councillor and chairperson Obakeng Ramabodu. (Photo: @EFFGautengProv / X)

The City of Tshwane’s council meeting on Thursday, which was scheduled to pass crucial reports affecting the municipality’s more than 4 million residents, was abruptly adjourned and postponed indefinitely after racial threats of violence were bandied about by councillors.  

The tension arose after ANC and EFF councillors demanded an apology from the executive mayor, Cilliers Brink, over remarks he had made in recent days suggesting that the ANC’s days of looting and mismanagement were not over.

Brink refused to apologise on the grounds that the remarks were not made in council.  

This led to multiple points of order, shouting, heckling and insults being traded.

“You’re a small boy”, “You’re a fool”, “white model” and “drunkards” were some of the epithets bandied about. Matters escalated when threats were seemingly directed at the EFF’s councillor and chairperson, Obakeng Ramabodu, that he would be beaten up.  

In response, Ramabodu said, “I would be happy to moer a boer; that would be nice. I want the blood of an Afrikaner, I want it.”  

After a lunch break, the council Speaker, the ATM’s Mncedi Ndzwanana, ordered Ramabodu to apologise and retract the statement — a demand to which he acceded.   

“I see that it is trending even on social media … I was told I was going to be beaten, and I said, ‘I would suck the blood of an Afrikaner’ — but if that was taken out of context ... then I will apologise and withdraw,” said Ramabodu.  

Read more: City of Tshwane tables R50bn budget aimed at improving finances — amid EFF disruption 

The DA said it would report Ramabodu to the South African Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) and “lay criminal charges” in a bid to hold him accountable for “incitement to violence and hate speech”.  

Willie Aucamp, the DA’s national spokesperson, said: “The councillor’s statement, expressing a desire to ‘moer a boer’ and his utterance that he ‘wants the blood of an Afrikaner’, is a blatant display of hate speech and racism that has no place in our democratic society.

“The EFF is a party of hatred and chaos. They are the ‘breakers’ that seek to sow division and incite violence, undermining the values of unity and respect that our nation is built upon.”  

Motion of no confidence 

The tension came amid the ANC’s intention to table an urgent motion of no confidence against Mayor Brink. The ANC had repeatedly said this was because of the lack of service delivery in the city.  

The ANC does not have sufficient numbers to pass the motion. It was banking on councillors in the governing multiparty coalition voting with their “conscience” and not political affiliation.    

The DA-led multiparty’s caucus chairperson Jacqui Uys said they were ready to defeat the motion and rally behind Brink. 

“The multiparty government, with its majority, is confident going into the motion of no confidence. However, we call upon the Republican Conference Tshwane, Patriotic Alliance, Congress of the People, Pan Africanist Congress of Azania, Good, African Transformation Movement and African Independent Congress to stand against this [motion], and not support the ANC to further ANC business interests. 

“We will not allow the ANC to undo all the progress we’ve made in the name of self-interest,” said Uys.    

If the motion succeeds, it will not be a first for the city. In 2023, the late Murunwa Makwarela (Cope) received 112 votes and Brink received 101 votes in a mayoral election, suggesting some councillors in the DA-led coalition camp had voted in favour of Makwarela.

Read more: Tshwane gets a new mayor – Cope’s Makwarela – as seething multiparty coalition urgently seeks answers 

Service delivery suffers

Service delivery in Tshwane, like that in Johannesburg, is near collapse following the formation of chaotic coalitions after the 2021 local government elections in which no party won a majority. 

This month, City Manager Johann Mettler introduced a new waste management contract for service providers. It included three new rules: no waste management truck can be older than nine years old and all must have a valid registration licence (about 70% of previous contractors could not produce one) and a GPS.

That allegedly led to the no-confidence motion threat because most contractors, some of whom are allegedly aligned to the ANC, didn’t make the grade. The city also tightened subcontracting rules as political interests are veiled when beneficial ownership is unclear.

On Thursday, the ANC made an about-turn and withdrew the motion temporarily. The party’s regional secretary George Matjila dismissed suggestions that the motion had anything to do with the new waste management contracts.  

He said the motion had not been tabled within 24 hours as required by law.   

Matjila did not rule out the possibility of tabling the motion during the next council sitting. “It’s a tactical retreat, temporarily so,” he said.    

Commenting on the conduct of EFF councillors, Matjila said: “We believe in robust engagement; we do not support anarchy, we don’t subscribe to political ill-discipline where people are being insulted, others are being threatened with violence.” 

A visibly irked Ndzwanana summoned all the political party leaders to a meeting in his office on Thursday afternoon after not a single item on the agenda was deliberated upon. DM

Comments

Joe Soap Jul 26, 2024, 03:45 AM

How are we supposed to take these people serious. The EFF always seems to be at the centre of it.

Malcolm McManus Jul 26, 2024, 06:55 AM

To think they get paid large sums of money just to disrupt every so often.

J vN Jul 26, 2024, 09:42 AM

I do take the person who made these utterances seriously. He was being honest about his hatred. However, I support his freedom of speech. BUT: I also demand my right to speak my mind about him and his group, but this is the problem in SA. Some people may speak their mind, but some others can't.

Dave Martin Jul 26, 2024, 11:59 AM

I do not for one instance catagorise his actions as expressing "freedom of speech"! Please watch the videos. The vehement hate, anger, and pure aggression in his voice, actions, and gesticulations, were real threats in what seems to be a very personal attack to someone out of picture. Typical of EFF

rkeenemail Jul 26, 2024, 02:00 PM

Agreed....that was a prime example of what is clearly hate speech contemplated by the laws of South Africa!...charge, prosecute and remove "it" from our society along with his whole rabble rousing violent effing mob.

Marius Coetzee Jul 27, 2024, 08:19 AM

Freedom of Speech should include so-called ''hate speech''. It's important that hate speech be allowed as part of freedom of speech. If not, hatred for specific ethnic groups or races would remain hidden. Far better that hate speech be out in the open, so that the speakers and parties be known.

Kevin Venter Jul 26, 2024, 06:18 AM

In stark contrast to the City of Cape Town council meeting which happened yesterday. The conduct in that meeting was very different to what we see in parliament every day. Order and respectful engagement. If only the rest of the country can see how government meeting SHOULD be run.

Steve Davidson Jul 26, 2024, 06:36 AM

But KV, isn't that what the DA are doing in both Tshwane and the country? Showing the useless thieving VBS EFF thieves up for what they - and the ANC - are. Bring it on! It's about time they were shown up by the adults in the room, but it must be really exhausting for Brink and his team.

Malcolm McManus Jul 26, 2024, 09:48 AM

When kids at preschool are making a noise and not behaving, at least they keep quiet and listen when the teacher calls for calm. The EFF and MK for that matter can't reasonably be compared to kids. They are ridiculously pathetic. Beyond childish. An embarrassment to SA.

dotpen Jul 27, 2024, 11:25 AM

Well said Kevin. If only the rest of South Africa could show respect like Cape Town, what a great place we would have in this world. The world would see us in a different light.

Debbie.ann Jul 26, 2024, 06:27 AM

And these people earn salaries doing this?

Paul T Jul 26, 2024, 06:45 AM

The hypocrisy of the EFF is astounding.

cberrington Jul 26, 2024, 11:09 AM

No hypocrisy in the EFF , they are violent racists and should be taken at face value ! This animal would attack the mayor physically because he is an Afrikaner ( white ) . I trust that the ANC elements in the Tshwane Council now realize that they cannot cooperate with the EFF .

Dennis Bailey Jul 26, 2024, 06:41 AM

I guess the shit in the city knows no end! To think these blokes are being paid to perform like clowns.

Skinyela Jul 26, 2024, 06:46 AM

Pity that cllrs and MPs enjoy immunity from prosecution on the things they say inside the respective legislative bodies.

lizaroo49 Jul 26, 2024, 08:56 AM

Can the offenders not be banned from attending meetings for a period of time? A cooling off period. That would give them time to think about their unruly behaviour. It's all about the money.

Malcolm McManus Jul 26, 2024, 09:49 AM

Forever would seem too short.

Mike Lawrie Jul 26, 2024, 05:53 PM

I understand that city councillors do not enjoy any level of privilege in a council meeting, unlike MPs.

Skinyela Jul 26, 2024, 10:24 PM

Section 161 of act 108 of 1996 says "hello Mike" Section 28 of the Municipal Structures Act says "how are you Mike"

dredges.girder0m Jul 26, 2024, 06:54 AM

If the NPA would investigate the fraudulent ‘agreements’ , the city would be able to run as it should be. Why does the city not formally request such investigations into dodgy agreements?

Lynda Tyrer Jul 26, 2024, 08:57 AM

Our NPA are useless as we have seen time and time again.

williamlaing105 Jul 26, 2024, 06:09 PM

The NPA is "captured" by the agreed principle that hate speech against the current whites by free blacks is OK because of white grandfathers allowing/neutrality to Apartheid. So they will not act against perpetrators and the hate speech will continue unchecked.

Pieter van de Venter Jul 26, 2024, 11:27 AM

They are - and that is the reason behind "the removal of senior managers" that the EFF and ANC now make out to be because they are black and are replaced by whites.

troyelanmarshall Jul 26, 2024, 06:59 AM

Ramabodu's comment is totally unacceptable. He has to be sanctioned. Thing is, what's taking the DA so long to deal with Renaldo Gouws? Is the DA going to set the bar high? Or is the DA to reveal themselves as hypocrites, just like the EFF?

Karl Sittlinger Jul 26, 2024, 07:37 AM

While I don't support Gouws, do you actually know the full context of his racist statements, which was to show a reverse example of what Malema actually said. It was stupid of him to do so in this country, but context, even if DM hasn't bothered to print it, matters. 300 char comments DM??? Really?

troyelanmarshall Jul 26, 2024, 08:30 AM

No, no, no, no - no, Renaldo Gouws's racist statements were not acceptable. You can not rationalise, that only ends in hypocrisy.

ttshililo2 Jul 26, 2024, 09:01 AM

Well since Renaldo’s comments have “context”, then Ramabodu‘s too have context. 400 years worth of context I guess. ?

chucklebear Jul 26, 2024, 09:33 AM

Nope, your people were on the congo 400 years ago. You stole land from the khoi and you genocided them. You have no claim.

ttshililo2 Jul 26, 2024, 09:47 AM

?????the settler’s myths and lies are truly astounding, along with the sadism attached to it.

Con Tester Jul 26, 2024, 10:01 AM

They are not myths, Tumelo. Try to keep up with the facts.

Malcolm McManus Jul 26, 2024, 12:41 PM

400 years ago the settlers were able to read and write and keep notes about history. I'm not sure how the other tribes kept track of events.

Walter Spatula Jul 27, 2024, 01:53 PM

The response to this fact is always fingers in ears and loud chanting of la la la la la!

Hidden Name Jul 26, 2024, 09:33 AM

First remove chip from shoulder - then comment, eh?

Grimalkin Joyce Jul 27, 2024, 09:00 AM

That chip is getting bigger as the contrast between the competence of the two parties gets more obvious. The race card is the fertiliser that grows the chip.

Grimalkin Joyce Jul 27, 2024, 09:00 AM

That chip is getting bigger as the contrast between the competence of the two parties gets more obvious. The race card is the fertiliser that grows the chip.

Middle aged Mike Jul 26, 2024, 09:19 AM

The context is conveniently missed, forgotten or ignored by pretty much everyone myself included when I first heard what he said. A nicely worked example of the fact that the mouth the words come out of is more important to its reception and judgement than what's said.

ttshililo2 Jul 26, 2024, 09:20 AM

Well since Renaldo’s comments have “context”, then Ramabodu‘s too have context. 400 years worth of context I guess. So please spare us the fragility and the tears.

Karl Sittlinger Jul 26, 2024, 09:43 AM

Context of a statement by an individual (as misguided and wrongas it may be) cannot be compared to the history of an entire country. Thats a non argument and you know it. Care to engage properly?

ttshililo2 Jul 26, 2024, 10:16 AM

Do care to stop excusing racist language and the shifting of goal posts- there is never any ‘context’ to such dehumanising words. Must you always be reminded of the shameful and barbaric history of this country. Maybe engage with that first before pontificating ‘context’.

Karl Sittlinger Jul 26, 2024, 10:33 AM

I never excused Gouws behavior (pls read my comment again), merely stated there was context to his utterances that was not reported by DM. So question to you, do you agree with Malemas hate speech, or what was described in this article. If so, your entire argument only highlights your hypocrisy.

chucklebear Jul 26, 2024, 12:39 PM

Renaldo wasn't being racist at all. The fragility of the congolese settler racist is on full display

karelstey Jul 26, 2024, 07:37 AM

Interesting that DM thought '... Blood of an Afrikaner"to be a better topic than "... Moer a Boer". Wonder why?

Andikho Krelekrele Jul 26, 2024, 08:11 AM

Agree Troy - I have not heard anything new from the DA on Mr Gouws but loud on EFF? Kettle calling the pot black? And yes, Ramabodu needs to bring to book. DA beginning to look like all of those parties they used to criticise. Let's see them take their original plans on Phala Phala, the deduction of votes from the ANC for the Ramaphosa abuse of SABC, etc forward. Better pay in cabinet more important? I live in Tshwane Dave - and honestly the DA is performing poorly. The city, its parks and nature area look like pig sties. Sewage spilling in roads, potholes galore etc. They are not showing any party up. Wish they would.

Rod MacLeod Jul 26, 2024, 08:37 AM

Give them a chance to govern without the sh!tshow of your grifters in the ANC and EFF, and maybe Pretoria can start looking more like Cape Town.

Karl Sittlinger Jul 26, 2024, 08:41 AM

As I understand it, the damage done to Tshwane was done by previous administrations and not the DA. Pls tell, which issues can you directly attribute to the DA?

Con Tester Jul 26, 2024, 09:58 AM

This type of ill-conceived response shows only the appalling witlessness of its author. It is so much easier to break, neglect, and degrade than it is to build up, maintain, and improve, especially so with the ANC/EFF’s deliberately infantile peevishness and obstructiveness in constant attendance.

Pieter van de Venter Jul 26, 2024, 11:33 AM

Andikho, did you ever wondered why the service delivery is not up to standard and why senior "ANC" managers are removed? Simple - the ANC managers stand squarely in the way of improved delivery. They actually derail all attempts.

karelstey Jul 26, 2024, 07:37 AM

Interesting that DM thought '... Blood of an Afrikaner"to be a better topic than "... Moer a Boer". Wonder why?

Rod MacLeod Jul 26, 2024, 08:18 AM

Are you from this planet? You think wanting to "suck the blood of an Afrikaner" is less relevant than "more a boer"? Jeepers, no wonder this place is headed for a heart of darkness.

liamp8 Jul 26, 2024, 03:05 PM

It's because those were the words he chose. Now you can stop wondering.

mi Jul 26, 2024, 08:36 AM

He should be jailed for inciting violence. So the SA government shouts from the hilltops that Israel is committing genocide! Then allow this man (the EFF) to sow the seeds of genocide. What hypocrisy!!

Kenneth FAKUDE Jul 27, 2024, 06:42 PM

Mike this cannot be compared to what Israel is doing in Palestine for 75 years, the EFF is losing support not because they don't raise important issues but they do it in an irresponsible way which might not resonate with the voters they represent. Vampires should not occupy those positions.

Lynda Tyrer Jul 26, 2024, 08:56 AM

I guess the HSRC will say its totally acceptable its time that racist bunch were disbanded as they are totally one sided with their decisions.

Steven D Jul 26, 2024, 09:01 AM

The SAHRC is apparently unbiased. Let's see how fast it moves in relation to these clearly racist remarks.

Karl Sittlinger Jul 26, 2024, 10:36 AM

An excellent analysis how the SAHRC reacts to different race based cases can be found by googling "How the response to black and white racism differs politicsweb"

chucklebear Jul 26, 2024, 09:26 AM

Calling on all hackers to dox this EFF racist's address so we can mobilise the boers to his house

Malcolm McManus Jul 26, 2024, 09:56 AM

Lets rather not stoop to their 10 thousand year old cave man behavior.

eugened.dehaa Jul 26, 2024, 10:19 AM

Unfortunately, sometimes one must counter cave man mentality and behavior by being a even worse cave man. The niceties of respectful and civilized discourse are way beyond the comprehension of these racists.

Malcolm McManus Jul 26, 2024, 12:54 PM

Maybe your right. Probably why Israel is reacting to October the 7th and Hamas the way they are. A rather vicious circle though, that can be applied to many circumstances globally.

rkeenemail Jul 26, 2024, 04:00 PM

....then I suggest that people like the eff and hamas don't start a war....physical or of words!

D'Esprit Dan Jul 26, 2024, 09:32 AM

Our political leadership - from all parties - in a nutshell. When can the adults get into the room? When will the DA kick out the embarrassing Gouws and the fake doctor, Elyas? People in glass houses and all that.

Middle aged Mike Jul 26, 2024, 12:05 PM

Equating the standard behaviour of the EFF with a couple of rare aberations of the DA is really stretching it. What Gouws did was dumb as it was never going to be taken up as what it was, i.e. showing that vile racism coming out of the mouth of Malema was acceptable in SA. The EFF and it's office bearers consistently spew what in any reasonable society should be condemned as hate speech. That is simply not true of the DA.

D'Esprit Dan Jul 26, 2024, 01:41 PM

It's very simple: keeping Gouws and Elyas in the DA - and apparently considering both for higher office - shows the DA's absolute inability to read a room and political temperature. Again. Shuffling feet and whistling in the wind with those two is what the DA will remain a 20% party. Simple.

Middle aged Mike Jul 26, 2024, 07:27 PM

You completely miss my point. You also assume that the DA can grow by doing what you regard as the right thing. The 60 percent of voters who picked the ANC, EFF and MK should make it clear that's a fantasy. Most saffers want racist thieving thugs in charge.

eugened.dehaa Jul 26, 2024, 09:40 AM

I wonder what would happen if some fris boer pitched up in front of this pillock and said - " nou kom let us see who moers who". Bet your last dollar this simpleton would set a new record for the chickenshit coward retreat.

megapode Jul 26, 2024, 10:38 AM

Well I wouldn't bet on that, but I hope that the speaker takes action. In politics people disagree. The disagreements may be very profound. But there should never be threats of violence. If he was first threatened then he should have appealed to the speaker but also should be cut some slack.

Middle aged Mike Jul 26, 2024, 12:15 PM

R5 bucks says that you wouldn't be suggesting he be cut any slack but for some demographic considerations.

megapode Jul 27, 2024, 07:41 AM

I'm saying that if he was first threatened with violence then it is laudable if he steps back and refers to the Speaker, but understandable if he reacts. He's still naughty, but he has some mitigation.

Indeed Jhb Jul 26, 2024, 10:03 AM

What a waste of time and money. Does anynody believe this is contributing to service delivery? The EFF is using racism for media exposure to ensure their name is remembered. There is no contribution made by them that can cause that. Shame

Middle aged Mike Jul 26, 2024, 10:06 AM

Paying for these mamparas to cosplay as revolutionaries while they loot and ponce about in fancy dress and fancier cars is deeply irksome. When will us safricans wake up and realise that we are being played for fools?

Donald bemax Jul 26, 2024, 10:48 AM

My Grandmother had a saying" Expect nothing from a pig and you will never be disappointed "

Craig King Jul 26, 2024, 11:22 AM

Not sure how that will help fixing the potholes or sewer pipes.

D'Esprit Dan Jul 26, 2024, 11:37 AM

Lots of hatred on here, and my little comment imploring a balanced approach gets rejected!

Middle aged Mike Jul 26, 2024, 12:09 PM

What balanced approach is there when discussing utterences like the nice EFF representatives? Some things should simply be condemned for what they are on their face. If you look hard enough for nuance and context you'll eventually find an excuse for pretty much any hateful behaviour.

Alison Immelman Jul 26, 2024, 03:56 PM

Welcome to my world.

gwildone Jul 26, 2024, 12:18 PM

Clearly this chump has never met a 'Boer' on a quite dark street. It may not be Afrikaner blood that gets spilled.

jamesmilne Jul 26, 2024, 12:55 PM

It seems like the ANC in Gauteng is looking at staging a coup. They're not following the National ANC guidance. They're removing all opposition in the region. Panyaza Lesufi was shouting at the President demanding his way on BELA. Lesufi has taken direct control of the 6000 armed police force.

rkeenemail Jul 26, 2024, 01:58 PM

These thugs cannot govern....they can only rule by tyranny, decree and force! fkemall.

Gbdl Jul 26, 2024, 02:15 PM

When will ”humans” STOP trying to OWN land? Modern “civilisation” as we know it has only been around for a few thousand years, yet “humans” have caused more damage in that short time than the billions of years the planet has existed! Disgraceful! Greed, ego and OWNERSHIP is our destruction!

Jabu Mhlanga Jul 26, 2024, 03:24 PM

Mr Ramabodu must have been aggrieved...but the racist comments weren't necessary at all.

Adrian Galley Jul 26, 2024, 06:30 PM

Despicable behaviour! "...if that was taken out of context … then I will apologise and withdraw." That is a non-apology; he clearly meant every word.

Middle aged Mike Jul 26, 2024, 07:29 PM

But he didn't say it on a beach in Greece so no harm no foul.

dewaomuhle Jul 26, 2024, 06:45 PM

Yah ,we are going no where with this kind of leadership

Just Another Day Jul 27, 2024, 11:56 AM

By shouting this - ‘I want the blood of an Afrikaner’ — the ANC cadres should be hauled in front of the equality court for hate speech.

Michael Coleman Jul 27, 2024, 12:40 PM

And in the same city 12 girls are charged with racism for nothing!