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COUNCIL RUCKUS

DA councillors manhandled out of City of Tshwane council after posing ‘challenging questions’

City of Tshwane executive mayor claims DA councillors were determined to disrupt a council meeting before bouncers were called in to haul them out.
Nonku-Brawl-Tshwane A critical council meeting in Tshwane turned violent on Thursday, 31 October 2024, when two DA councillors, accused of being disruptive, were forcefully removed from the council chambers by private security. (Screengrab: DA Gauteng / X)

Just a day after City of Tshwane Executive Mayor Nasiphi Moya presented her administration’s plans to navigate the city out of its financial turmoil, a crucial council meeting turned violent on Thursday, 31 October 2024, as two DA councillors, accused of causing chaos, were forcibly removed from the council chambers by private security – a move the Democratic Alliance (DA) says was an assault on democracy.  

At least six private security guards manhandled the DA’s Katlego Makgaleng and Kwena Moloto while removing them from the council chambers. Both resisted their removal. Makgaleng’s removal was particularly forceful as guards stripped him of his blazer and lifted his legs and hands. 

During the incident, some councillors clapped, shouted and heckled while others took it upon themselves to film the ordeal.

Moya criticised the conduct of some DA councillors and suggested some had planned to be disruptive from the start of the meeting.  

“The meeting started constructively and all political parties were engaged. However, there was a determination on the part of the DA, and some of its leaders, to be disruptive from the beginning of the meeting. The disruptions from the DA caucus continued even when I was tabling reports. 

“The Speaker of Council warned the DA councillors about their disruptive behaviour, but the same councillors continued,” she told Daily Maverick. 

The DA, however, claims it was targeted because it raised strong points of debate. 

“Unable to win debates in council, this coalition turned to intimidation, weaponising municipal resources to suppress the opposition.

“When DA councillors raised challenging questions, they were met not with answers, but with Deputy Mayor [Eugene] Modise’s demands for their removal. The Speaker dutifully obliged. Bouncers were brought in to forcibly and illegally remove DA Councillors Moloto and Makgaleng,” said DA caucus leader and former mayor Cilliers Brink. 

Brink said the incident had been a part of a troubling trend.

“The Speaker has repeatedly failed to protect councillors from documented ANC and EFF assaults, and now actively targets his opponents.”

There were a number of disagreements that led to the bouncers being called in. The DA highlighted how it earlier tried and failed to have an ANC councillor removed for allegedly flouting the rules by failing to attend council meetings without filing apologies. 

While an ActionSA councillor was on the floor pointing to the DA’s “poor track record” in the previous administration, Speaker Mncedi Ndzwanana was irked by the DA’s interruptions and instructed its councillor Ofentse Madzebatela to vacate the premises.

“Can you leave the house? I gave you plenty of warnings. Leave the house. Can you bring the security to remove him and all those who are not obeying my instructions?” Ndzwanana said.

Shortly afterwards, Makgaleng and Moloto were removed by the security. 

Brink indicated that the party would lay a criminal charge following Thursday’s events.

“The DA will open cases against the Speaker and those involved in this assault on democracy. We remain resolute in fighting for the people of Tshwane,” Brink said. 

‘Don’t disrupt proceedings’

A scene from a critical council meeting in Tshwane which turned violent on Thursday, 31 October 2024, when two DA councillors, accused of disrupting proceedings, were forcefully removed from the council chambers by private security. (Screengrab: DA Gauteng / X)
A scene from a council meeting in Tshwane, which turned violent on Thursday, 31 October 2024, when two DA councillors, accused of disrupting proceedings, were forcefully removed from the council chambers by private security. (Screengrab: DA Gauteng / X)
DA caucus leader Cilliers Brink after he was officially removed from his position as the executive mayor of Tshwane on 26 September 2024. (Photo: Deaan Vivier / Beeld / Gallo Images)<br>
DA caucus leader Cilliers Brink after he was officially removed from his position as the executive mayor of Tshwane on 26 September 2024. (Photo: Deaan Vivier / Beeld / Gallo Images)

Moya said the incident was unfortunate, but defended the use of private security to contain the disruption.  

“This is not the image that we want to project to the residents, especially at this time. The DA took the decision in 2016 to recruit the council security bouncers for the very reason that they were used for today, during the council meeting,” Moya said. 

The ANC’s Tshwane regional secretary George Matjila echoed Moya’s sentiments, saying some councillors were hellbent on disrupting the proceedings. 

“It is really unfortunate. We expect all councillors to behave, be ruly and to adhere to the rules of council and when ordered by the Speaker, they need to do so peacefully and quietly so that they don’t disrupt proceedings. 

“It projects the council in a bad light. Secondly, it undermines the rule of law. As the lawmakers at the local level, we need to abide by the law, it cannot be us who are at loggerheads with the law.”

Matjila said the DA was going through the different stages of grief after it lost power in the city in September when Brink was removed through an ANC-sponsored motion of no confidence that was supported by councillors from political parties, including the ANC, ActionSA and EFF, which collectively hold more than 110 seats in the 214-seat council. 

Read more: ActionSA’s Tshwane mayor Nasiphi Moya commits to stability in metro her party calls ‘effectively bankrupt’

This is not the first instance of violence in the council. In June, tensions flared when ANC and EFF councillors demanded an apology from Brink, who was a mayor at the time, for comments suggesting that the ANC’s history of looting and mismanagement was far from over.

Brink declined to apologise, asserting that his remarks were not made during the council session. This refusal triggered multiple points of order, resulting in shouting, heckling and a barrage of insults. The situation intensified when threats were reportedly directed at EFF councillor and chairperson Obakeng Ramabodu, suggesting he would be physically assaulted.

In response, Ramabodu said: “I would be happy to moer a boer; that would be nice. I want the blood of an Afrikaner, I want it.”

Ramabodu later apologised for his comments. DM

Comments

Kevin Venter Nov 1, 2024, 01:46 AM

Welcome to the banana republic where any political manoeuvring is with the sole aim of enriching yourself and your cronies instead of serving the people who voted for you to be there. This is the reason why African countries fail. The voters in South Africa seriously need to wake up to themselves.

laurantsystems Nov 1, 2024, 07:17 AM

Actually, the people who keep on voting for the EFF and ANC are the reason African countries, and SA, fail. For 30 years now, a solid 2/3rds of SA's electorate have persisted in voting for the ANC and its spawn, like Cope, the EFF and MK. This is the real problem.

Bongane Maphanga Nov 1, 2024, 08:50 PM

Less than 2/3rds of SA's electorate votes in elections, let alone for the ANC

bianca_albes Nov 2, 2024, 12:26 PM

True. The ANC is actually a tiny party when one considers the percentage of those of voting age who elect them.

Arnold O Managra Nov 2, 2024, 11:07 PM

So why, Bongane? Why are so many people both unemployed and not voting?

Fanie Rajesh Ngabiso Nov 1, 2024, 04:59 AM

I cannot believe there isn't comprehensive recording of these session. Every sitting shpuld be entirely replayable.

John Millar Nov 1, 2024, 06:28 AM

Please continue asking those challenging questions, DA

Gavin Hillyard Nov 1, 2024, 06:52 AM

Disgraceful abuse of power by the ANC. Were the DA councilors being disruptive or were they just asking awkward questions? One remembers how the ANC councilors toyi-toyied and threw paperwork on the floor in a past Cape Town meeting. It's OK for them to disrupt meetings it seems.

Derrick Kourie Nov 1, 2024, 07:04 AM

This tell us what the parties say are the facts. It fails to tell us unambiguously what the facts actually are: What exactly were the DA councillors trying to say? Was their behaviour against council rules? Was the speaker's action in accordance with the rules?

Greeff Kotzé Nov 1, 2024, 05:15 PM

Exactly. Couldn't have put it better myself. This entire article is just stenography, not journalism.

Hidden Name Nov 1, 2024, 07:14 AM

Courts will (not surprisingly) find against the ANC/ActionSA fools. But its going to take a damaging amount of time. I wonder if they realise how badly they have shot themselves in the foot? Next local government elections will see their support take a nose dive. People dont like being betrayed.

Karl Sittlinger Nov 1, 2024, 07:23 AM

And for those that seek to compare the DA with the ANC, here is the major difference on display right here.

Rod MacLeod Nov 1, 2024, 07:53 AM

Blue light thugs, council security thugs, Lesufi's brown shirt thugs ... Russian friends, Chinese friends, Iranian friends ... silence of the lambs in Zimbabwe and Mozambique ... stealing, looting, shooting ...

William Kelly Nov 1, 2024, 08:07 AM

Fekking children. The lot of them. Disgraceful at every level. Continue to play games. Live with the consequences.

Rob Bayliss Nov 1, 2024, 08:32 AM

This report is inadequate. Where are the facts? What questions were being asked, what were the responses? Were the responses adequate? Why did the DA X2 object to the answers. Transparency is essential. The public needs to be able to assess the performance of its elected representatives.

Mike Lawrie Nov 1, 2024, 02:19 PM

This report reflects extremely badly on the DM. It is totally one-sided, and while I won't give you tuppence for the ANC I would not be suprised if the article was laid before the Press Council.

Charles Goldman Nov 1, 2024, 08:36 AM

Is it just me - or is this woefully pitiful reporting? Not one bit of information to create insight or context for the events that transpired. Literally 'he said - she said'. DM at risk of becoming a first class tabloid IMHO.

Cachunk Nov 1, 2024, 11:45 AM

Pathetic reporting - worthy of one of the Independent Media rags.

Just another Comment Nov 2, 2024, 10:33 AM

This kind of inadequate reporting is why I've stopped my contributions to this journal. Well researched and written articles have rapidly declined in the last couple of years. Sad days when the last reputable journal gets captured.

Pieter van de Venter Nov 2, 2024, 06:30 AM

It is the same journo that kept on repeating the initial junk about PTA Girls High that Chiloane &amp; co spewed.

Arnold O Managra Nov 2, 2024, 12:25 PM

You'll be pleased to find out that the Press Ombudsman has judged that the DM must apologise publically for its PGHS reporting. Pretty embarrassing and richly deserved.

Arnold O Managra Nov 2, 2024, 11:33 PM

And exactly because the DM has become a forum for forwarding the current twittisphere. All of the DM journos are culpable. Turn off, switch out, and think for yourselves?

Robinson Crusoe Nov 1, 2024, 08:57 AM

Pathos. Unable to face critical debate, therefore they bring on the goons. All strength to the DA members in that circus of a council.

Soil Merchant Nov 1, 2024, 08:59 AM

I seem to remember someone saying: If we do not win outright we shall make your city/province/country ungovernable ...

Rodshep Nov 1, 2024, 09:03 AM

So Tshwane burns whilst politicians play at politics. S.A. voters must wake up to their responsibilities and vote for people who are humble and prepared to serve.

Nov 1, 2024, 09:18 AM

Yep. The minute questions are asked which will bring worms out of the woodwork are asked, cover it by violent reaction instead of answering the questions. Let's see where this poor city is next year this time. A bigger heap of rubble than ever if the EFF and ANC gangs are permitted to rule.

Sheila Vrahimis Nov 1, 2024, 09:39 AM

the issue at stake is proof of disruptive behaviour of the da. did they physically misbehave as instances of eff ? if they insisted on points of order, what were these? questions asked, what were they? media, DM - investigate Hansard. speaker must fully account for decisions

D'Esprit Dan Nov 1, 2024, 10:20 AM

Disgusting use of force. Absolutely expected. Pity our thugs can't learn from the dignity of the election in Botswana, where the incumbent has gracefully accepted defeat - but then you just have to travel from Gabs to Mahikeng to understand the difference in mentality between Botswana and SA.

Trenton Carr Nov 1, 2024, 12:22 PM

ZA is doomed, and has failed a long time ago, this are just a twitching corpse that's left.

cwf51 Nov 1, 2024, 01:14 PM

Sum total of Tswane's counselors' IQ is between 10 and 15 and with the private security included rose to maybe 11 to 16. All acted as active red overalls brigade.

Graeme de Villiers Nov 1, 2024, 01:53 PM

Methinks this author has a repetitive bone to pick with the DA. Very poor reporting on the back of a sensationalist headline. No facts or interrogative presentation of what actually went down. P*ss poor yet again, DM.

Muishond X Nov 2, 2024, 09:56 AM

At least they publish your letters. Mine are a lot milder, yet frequently sensored and not placed.

Gerrie Pretorius Nov 1, 2024, 03:51 PM

DM reporting seems to be getting worse by the day. Comments however are rejected without reason. And when a reason is requested, this ‘insider’ has been thoroughly ignored.

Muishond X Nov 2, 2024, 10:33 AM

I cannot agree with you more. The mildest if comments simply rejected due to ones political leaning. Mind boggling.

Just Another Day Nov 1, 2024, 04:29 PM

The ANC and EFF are blinded by race and cannot lead with integrity. Their brand of politics is just hatred and vindictiveness.

MG L Nov 1, 2024, 07:02 PM

Ramabodu’s comments violate the hate speech laws, but I doubt he will ever be charged. Savage comments really.

Ritey roo roo Nov 2, 2024, 02:07 AM

This is an exceptionally inept reporter. We're still in the dark as to what actually transpired.

roelf.pretorius Nov 2, 2024, 02:17 AM

I know the DA culture well enough to be fairly certain that the DA did not give any reason for their councillors to leave the house. No, the nationalists can't withstand the reasoning of some councillors and then they abuse the power that they have to silence it. I have seen this personally.

roelf.pretorius Nov 2, 2024, 02:21 AM

. . . The bouncers were not installed to stifle debate; they are only there to remove members who are preventing the proceedings from going ahead. Councils exist to debate issues, even robustly; if they are present to stifle debate, it would probably be unconstitutional.

roelf.pretorius Nov 2, 2024, 02:28 AM

. . . The remarks on going through stages of grief is actually the ANC that is going through such after they lost the majority in parliament; they are now projecting that onto the DA. The DA have always indicated that they are ready to go into the opposition benches, so it is the ANC's problem.