Former ANC leaders accused of trying to delay start of VBS trial

Quite amazing how the "legal system" panders to every whim of the perps in S.A. The victims, of course, are only a "peripheral issue" and have few rights in practice. And legal teams queue up for "commissions", offering the perps all manner of "tricks" to circumvent their convictions, as long as the cash (usually stolen or fraudulently acquired) flows into the formers' accounts.

Quite amazing how the "legal system" panders to every whim of the perps in S.A. The victims, of course, are only a "peripheral issue" and have few rights in practice. And legal teams queue up for "commissions", offering the perps all manner of "tricks" to circumvent their convictions, as long as the cash (usually stolen or fraudulently acquired) flows into the formers' accounts.

so these are the basic definitions of some crimes. it's intersting to see how many of these the various actions of individuals, and political parties themselves, seem to apply: 1: Defeating or obstructing the course of justice The crime of defeating or obstructing the course of justice consists of unlawfully and intentionally engaging in conduct which defeats or obstructs the course or administration of justice. 2: Extortion It consists of taking from another some patrimonial or non-patrimonial advantage by intentionally and unlawfully subjecting that person to pressure which induces him or her to submit to the taking. 3: Fraud It is the unlawful and intentional making of a misrepresentation which causes actual prejudice or which is potentially prejudicial to another. 4:Malicious injury to property It consists of unlawfully and intentionally damaging the property of another. 5:Perjury Perjury consists in the unlawful and intentional making of a false statement in the course of a judicial proceeding by a person who has taken the oath or made an affirmation before, or who has been admonished by somebody competent to administer or accept the oath, affirmation or admonition. 6: Public violence It consists of the unlawful and intentional commission, together with a number of people, of an act/s which assume serious dimensions and which are intended forcibly to disturb public peace and tranquillity or to invade the rights of others. 7: Receiving stolen property The crime of receiving consists of unlawfully receiving possession of stolen property knowing it to have been stolen. 8: Theft It consists of the unlawful appropriation of moveable corporeal property belonging to another with intent to deprive the owner permanently of the property. 9: Crimen injuria consist of unlawfully and intentionally impairing the dignity or privacy of another person.

so these are the basic definitions of some crimes. it's intersting to see how many of these the various actions of individuals, and political parties themselves, seem to apply: 1: Defeating or obstructing the course of justice The crime of defeating or obstructing the course of justice consists of unlawfully and intentionally engaging in conduct which defeats or obstructs the course or administration of justice. 2: Extortion It consists of taking from another some patrimonial or non-patrimonial advantage by intentionally and unlawfully subjecting that person to pressure which induces him or her to submit to the taking. 3: Fraud It is the unlawful and intentional making of a misrepresentation which causes actual prejudice or which is potentially prejudicial to another. 4:Malicious injury to property It consists of unlawfully and intentionally damaging the property of another. 5:Perjury Perjury consists in the unlawful and intentional making of a false statement in the course of a judicial proceeding by a person who has taken the oath or made an affirmation before, or who has been admonished by somebody competent to administer or accept the oath, affirmation or admonition. 6: Public violence It consists of the unlawful and intentional commission, together with a number of people, of an act/s which assume serious dimensions and which are intended forcibly to disturb public peace and tranquillity or to invade the rights of others. 7: Receiving stolen property The crime of receiving consists of unlawfully receiving possession of stolen property knowing it to have been stolen. 8: Theft It consists of the unlawful appropriation of moveable corporeal property belonging to another with intent to deprive the owner permanently of the property. 9: Crimen injuria consist of unlawfully and intentionally impairing the dignity or privacy of another person.

Jacob Zuma was shown by Kemp J Kemp SC how easily and successfully the Stalingrad defence could be used. Now lots of others have learned and are doing the same, showing the SA justice system to be inept and weak, because the laws and procedures it follows are not fit for purpose.

How is Shaun still an advocate?

Ah good old Shaun Abrahams. The corrupt, incompetent circus clown dressed in lawyer's robes, masquerading as an attorney. I thought this idiot has long since skulked off into the night. No surprise to see him slither out to defend his corrupt buddies though. I expect he'll be joining MK soon.

There is such an easy solution for the legal system FUBAR which we have. Pay lawyers like estate agents... IE you only get your commission once the deal is done and the property is transferred. If the case has no chance of success, lawyers wont take it and there is no benefit to drawing it out

Advocate Shaun Abrahams aka Shaun the Sheep! Good heavens, almost forgot about him. Legal Fraternity : how is Shaun the Sheep a “fit and proper person”?? When will Shaun the Sheep be an MK member of parliament??

This is when SA's public broadcaster can play a role in educating the masses. Make it clear; suspects cynically wait until the last possible moment before asking the prosecution for documents. The implication is damning and obvious.