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South Africa makes ‘urgent request’ to ICJ to stop Israeli attacks on Rafah

South Africa has made an urgent appeal to the World Court to intervene after Israel launched attacks on Rafah in southern Gaza. This comes as international pressure mounts on Israel to stop its military offensive in the city.
Tori-ICJ-order option 1 Foreign Minister Naledi Pandor (right) speaks to Zane Dangor, Director-General of the Department of International Relations and Cooperation, on 26 January 2024 before the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Netherlands, delivers an order on South Africa’s genocide case against Israel. (Photo: Michel Porro / Getty Images)

The South African government has urged the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to intervene and order Israel to halt its airstrikes on Rafah in southern Gaza.  

In a statement on Tuesday, Presidency spokesperson Vincent Magwenya said South Africa had made an urgent request to the ICJ to consider whether Israel’s decision to extend its military operations in Rafah required that the court use its power to prevent further breaches of the rights of Palestinians in Gaza.

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South Africa filed its request to the World Court on Monday, 12 February, said Magwenya. 

Palestinians in the rubble outside the destroyed Al-Huda mosque following Israeli military operations in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip, on Monday, 12 February 2024. (Photo Ahmad Salem / Bloomberg via Getty Images)
Palestinians amid the rubble outside the destroyed Al-Huda mosque following Israeli military operations in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip, on Monday, 12 February 2024. (Photo Ahmad Salem / Bloomberg via Getty Images)

The request comes just over a month after the country presented its genocide case against Israel at the ICJ in The Hague.

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“It is gravely concerning that the unprecedented military offensive against Rafah, as announced by the State of Israel, has already led to and will result in further large-scale killing, harm and destruction,” said Magwenya.

“This would be in serious and irreparable breach both of the Genocide Convention and of the Court’s order of 26 January 2024,” he continued. 

Magwenya said that under Article 75(1) of the Rules of the Court: “The Court may at any time decide to examine proprio motu whether the circumstances of the case require the indication of provisional measures which ought to be taken or complied with by any or all of the parties.”

South Africa filed an application at the ICJ on 29 December 2023, accusing Israel of genocide in its war on Gaza, and seeking to halt its military invasion, pending the court’s final decision on whether Israel is perpetrating genocide.

In a ruling handed down by ICJ President Judge Joan Donoghue last month, the ICJ ordered that Israel stop killing and harming people in Gaza and that it report provisional measures to the Court within a month. 

While the Court stopped short of ordering a ceasefire, International Relations Minister Naledi Pandor said the effect of the order was tantamount to a ceasefire, Daily Maverick’s Ferial Haffajee reported.

South Africa’s request to the ICJ comes as Pandor told Parliament on Tuesday that the provisional measures set out by the judges of the ICJ have been ignored by Israel.

She said Israel is “massacring civilians in Rafah – the place they were ordered to flee to as a safe area”.

Pandor added that the DA – as the official opposition – was silent in condemnation of Israeli atrocities.

The airstrikes and missile attacks that continue to devastate the Gaza Strip have killed more than 28,000 Palestinians and wounded more than 68,000, most of them women and children, according to Gaza’s health ministry. 

Israel is currently bombing Rafah, a city in southern Gaza bordering Egypt.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced on Friday that a military invasion of Rafah to destroy Hamas was imminent.

Despite pleas from humanitarian organisations, Netanyahu insisted that the military operation was necessary, saying that “total victory” was within reach.

Palestinians collect papers from the destroyed Al-Huda mosque after Israeli military operations in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip, on Monday, 12 February 2024. (Photo: Ahmad Salem / Bloomberg via Getty Images)
Palestinians collect papers from the destroyed Al-Huda mosque after Israeli military operations in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip, on Monday, 12 February 2024. (Photo: Ahmad Salem / Bloomberg via Getty Images)

On Monday, Israel’s military said it had freed two Israeli hostages in Rafah. This came as a wave of airstrikes on the city killed scores of Palestinians, The Washington Post reported. 

Roughly 1.4 million Palestinians are sheltering in Rafah, of which 600,000 are children, according to the United Nations.

Since the beginning of Israel’s war against Hamas in response to its 7 October attacks which killed 1,200 people in Israel, the Israeli military has repeatedly told Palestinians to evacuate to the south of Gaza ahead of a ground invasion.

Now, the majority of the enclave’s roughly 2.2 million people are seeking refuge in makeshift tents in Rafah – making it one of the most densely populated areas on earth.

UN Secretary-General António Guterres warned in a post on X on Friday that Israeli military action in Rafah “would exponentially increase what is already a humanitarian nightmare with untold regional consequences.”

The Director-General of the World Health Organization, Tedros Ghebreyesus, warned that Israel’s plan to evacuate Palestinians sheltering in Rafah was “extremely worrying”, and that proceeding with the plan “could have gravely devastating consequences for the 1.4 million people who have nowhere left to go.” DM

Comments

Peter Strydom Feb 14, 2024, 07:03 AM

And here we thought Israel would just comply - the point that’s being missed is Israel is fighting for their survival here, and doing a good job at it, where in the world do you fight a war and tell your enemy where you’re going to attack, Israel is. Hamas came looking for a fight and got themselves one, and now with a bloody nose are coming to others like SA to argue for reprieve - what a farce. The solution lies in the hands of the Palestinians themselves, hand over Hamas, let them drive out Hamas, let Hamas account for their aggression and heinous acts, they’re the scourge of the earth, and we’re defending them!. The Palestinians have for the past 20 years been refugees in their own land, whilst receiving billions in aid, where’s the money gone, just look underground and you’ll see where it’s gone, and there’s still people like SA wanting to defend Hamas’ cause - idiots to say the least. Sorry SA and those with this distorted view, get real!

Zai AD Feb 14, 2024, 08:27 AM

hahahhaa . US-backed apartheid israel fighting for survival... you got that the other way around. 75 years, you okes are just so blind and clear G sympathizers

jeste Feb 14, 2024, 08:37 AM

100%

louise.temk Feb 14, 2024, 08:46 AM

Yes! In addition, there has never been a war like this one where billions have been spent building an entire underground city to harbour terrorists, or where the number of actual dead civilians have been entirely obfuscated by Hamas? Where the press mourns the death of a journalist who is actually a terrorist? Where an aid agency has a terrorist organisation's command centre in an under its building?How can anyone be proud of a government that supports terrorism ? Anyone ,including Ms O'Reagan and Pandor who does not understand what the ICJ actually said , needs literacy lessons.

Jellybean Jellybean Feb 14, 2024, 11:45 PM

One of the VERY few comments laced with ONLY the truth, well articulated. Just a pity this will attract the vitriol of those who are directed by the false narrative spewed by our journalists.

Ben Harper Feb 14, 2024, 08:57 AM

Here's the inconvenient truth they don't want to hear. It is not Israel that made the people of Palestine refugees, it was their own Arab brothers that did that. In 1948 after the British partition, the Arab people living in the area at the time pleaded with their neighbouring Arab states to help them eliminate the Jews and the new state of Israel. Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt etc all agreed and they attacked Israel thinking they'd have an easy victory, however, they suffered a humiliating defeat and returned home BUT, they refused to admit the people who started it all into their countries and left them abandoned and thus refugees.

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 09:20 AM

Israel is an occupying power. How does a country have peace when when it occupies another which necessarily entails violence and oppression? Anyway, even if Israel is fighting for survival (it's not cf. Illan Pape, Norman Finkelstein et al.) it doesn't allow it to act as it pleases. Nor does Hamas actions permit it to "unleash all restraints" - a horrifying thought in war. In particular, as a signatory to the genocide convention, Israel should not commit genocide. But the ICJ has already found that it has a case to answer in that regard.

Middle aged Mike Feb 14, 2024, 01:28 PM

Where do you suggest the Jew go?

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 08:21 PM

When Israel decides to go to war, mowing the lawn and so on, my friend, used to question her Hungarian mother about Israel aggression, and when eventually pussed into a corner, that's what she would say "but where are the Jews supposed to go?". The de rigueur answer, I suppose is that Israel should accept the 1967 border in a two state solution. The parties should comply with UN resolutions relating to the Peaceful Settlement of the Question of Palestine. I mean, I guess that's the agreed upon solution by the world. Personally though, I think that there should be a single state. But each has its challenges. The UN resolutions require dealing with refugees and settlements. The single state means dealing with potentionally a non-Jewish state. But isn't this all abstract? It looks like Israel is committing genocide. And here I'm not talking about the bombs, horrific though that may be. I'm talking about disease and starvation as a method of war. Listen to the UN agencies and NGOs. Even Palestinians themselves. Israel, despite this has the full backing (rhetoric asside) of the western countries like the US, Germany France, the Netherlands. It's the only reason Israel has survived its international law violations.

Middle aged Mike Feb 15, 2024, 09:22 AM

"Personally though, I think that there should be a single state." That will work. Lots of happy, thriving Jewish communities all over the middle east, ne?

JP K Feb 16, 2024, 12:49 AM

As I said, both options have challenges. But it's not up to me, is it? To repeat though, isn’t this all abstract? It looks like Israel is committing genocide...

Graeme Feb 14, 2024, 02:06 PM

Actually you are wrong. Go and read the judgment again.

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 08:03 PM

The only references to the judgement I've made are (1) that Israel should not commit genocide and (2) that it is under investigation. The second issue, I’m guessing, is the contentious one because all you've said, rather unhelfully, is that I'm wrong and that I should reread the order. Nevertheless, thanks making me check my position. I appreciate improving my understanding. It turns out this is more complex than I thought. The order doesn't say much about the full procedure and instead covers the provisional measures application. News articles and others have mentioned investigation and the court has powers to appoint commissions of experts to undertake investigations as it makes its final decision on the case. But how these commissions work and the powers they have I’m not sure. Nor is it clear to me why the court processes can take years. So, the case is underway in which South Africa accuses Israel of breaching its obligations wrt. the genocide convention. The ICJ will make its final decision following oral presentations and in camera deliberations. Whether that procedure involves an investigation or only presentations, I can’t tell. If I've made another error, please feel free to point it out directly.

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 08:34 PM

Actually, after going back to the documents as you suggested, it's not clear to me reading my original comment, what you're referring to as there's nothing controversial (I previously misread my own comment thinking had said Israel is being investigated). Israel is occupying Palestine. Israel is employing violence in its occuption Israel is not facing an existential threat (according to Finkelstein and Pappe) Hamas actions do not allow releasing of all restraint (there are laws) Without commenting on whether Israel is committing genocide, Israel should not commit genocide. The ICJ is continuing with the case until it makes a final decision. Nothing there is controversial or cannot be substantiated. But perhaps you could be more specific in pointing out where I'm wrong.

Jehan Bektir Feb 14, 2024, 10:52 AM

It seems to me that the overwhelming majority of Palestinians are ACTIVELY supporting Hamas.

Jane Crankshaw Feb 14, 2024, 01:29 PM

Well said Mr Strydom!

Max Ulf Feb 14, 2024, 07:05 AM

That old Hag Pandor needs to retire....

Graeme Feb 14, 2024, 02:08 PM

That really isn't civil or appropriate to this forum.

Ben Harper Feb 16, 2024, 05:24 AM

True nonetheless

Max Ulf Feb 14, 2024, 07:06 AM

ALL a political plot to win votes... But doing absolutely nothing here back home.

Mike Lawrie Feb 14, 2024, 11:46 AM

There is no other explanation. "Muslims to vote ANC" will soon be on the election posters.

Nkunku S Feb 14, 2024, 07:11 AM

Perhaps they shouldn’t have embedded kidnapped civilian hostages amongst the civilian population?

Nkunku S Feb 14, 2024, 07:12 AM

Perhaps they shouldn’t have embedded kidnapped hostages amongst the civilian population?

Jane Crankshaw Feb 14, 2024, 07:19 AM

All this hooha whilst BEE policies breech the rights of the minority in South Africa is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black methinks! Sort out your own mess before sorting out others would be my advice to our interfering ANC government!

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 09:41 AM

Plausible genocide is hooha? I guess that's one way to look at it

Ben Harper Feb 14, 2024, 12:28 PM

Suggest you educate yourself on the meaning of the word plausible

John P Feb 15, 2024, 02:07 PM

Here you are Ben plausible - apparently reasonable, valid, or truthful JP K seems to understand it, what is it that you thought it meant?

Ben Harper Feb 16, 2024, 05:28 AM

Plausible means there is a chance it may be factual, it does not mean it is definitively factual, as in it is "plausible" Israel "MAY" have committed acts that "could" be construed as genocidal and therefore worthy of further investigation. So it is not proven that Israel has done anything wrong, the court found there is grounds to investigate further and has told Israel to act in accordance with the relevant statutes - this is the point you consistently miss and makes all of your arguments worthless

Jane Crankshaw Feb 14, 2024, 01:33 PM

Recon the Jews know more about the true meaning of Genocide eh? They've been there, done that and certainly don't want it to happen to them again. I, for one, don’t blame them!

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 09:48 PM

Well, reckon you're wrong. Jews I expect all have connections to the holocaust. But how they react is different and Jews are not unanimous in their support of Israel and its zionist project. So which Jews are the ones which know the true meaning of genocide, eh? Besides, the Jews aren't the only people to experience genocide. Note for example that Namabia, a people who also know about genocide, called out Germany for it's support of Israel in its genocide case. You'd think Germany might know about genocide. It said the case "has no basis whatsoever". Guess who got that wrong. So you seem to be claiming that no one can question Zionist assessment of whether genocide is occuring. Clearly, that's a silly argument. Obviously there are all sorts of experts in law, relief works, miliatry, public health etc. who could make intelligent assessments. While you don't want genocide to happen to Israelis again, you're okay with it happening to others. Nice one. Glad it's not your call to make.

louise.temk Feb 15, 2024, 05:56 PM

Maybe if you want to look and sound credible you should do more research and check your facts more carefully. A very small proportion of Jews worldwide do not support Israel at this time. Norman Finkelstein is neither credible or representative of most Jews. The Namibian people you refer to were the Herbert's and yes, Germany did perpetrate a genocide on them as did the Hutus on the Tutsis in Rwanda. What is happening in Gaza bears no resemblance to these tragedies. The Gazan population has helped, aided and abetted Hamas, as has UNWRA Hamas has repaid them by stealing the aid, hiding weapons in the aid , not giving them access to the extensive tunnel network. Beating them and using them as human shields. Israel is facing an existential threat - Sinwar and others are on record as stating that the annihilation of the Jewish state is their goal. Educate yourself Please.

Johan von Solms Feb 14, 2024, 07:29 AM

It is really sad that Hamas is now using the congregation of so many innocent people in Rafah to hide behind a human shield again. The acts of 7 October have made Israel furious and determined to destroy Hamas. To make Israel the demon in this unfortunate saga is short sighted and testament to the fact that terrorist attacks never attract as much criticism as the defensive outcome. The right thing for Hamas would be to withdraw and isolate themselves to prevent any further killing and maiming of innocent people.

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 09:23 AM

The "defensive outcome" you speak of is plausible genocide...

Mike Lawrie Feb 14, 2024, 11:52 AM

Voluntary genocide, perhaps? The Palestinians do not have to put up with Hamas if they don't want to. One can feel for the Palestinians, but they have brought these horrifying acts by Israel on their own heads.

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 10:00 PM

Look, I get where you're coming from. But consider this: are you accountable for the actions of the ANC? Would you be a legitimate target merely because the ANC run the country? What about if you actually voted for the ANC? What about then? These are not new questions. The answer is no. First, collective punishment is illegal and second, nothing - nothing - justifies genocide. There is no concept even remotely related to genocide-brought-upon-oneself. Children don't vote for Hamas and something like half the people killed are children. Does that mean anything to you? Anyway, all this ignores the history of Hamas and Israel's role in supporting fundamentalists as a means of undermining the peace process. It also ignores that Israel is an occupying power.

Johan von Solms Feb 14, 2024, 03:02 PM

Nope, the killing of innocent people is never plausible, ever. Your history ‘knowledge’ is flawed and biased, as is evident from your previous statements.

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 10:11 PM

Israel is plausbly committing genocide according to the ICJ. How many people have been killed by Israel? How many have been displaced? How many will die due to disease and starvation? How many children? But of course, you're not concerned with Palestinian innocents. So why don't you point out what you have a problem with instead of making vague accusations.

Ben Harper Feb 15, 2024, 06:11 AM

Hahahaha - no its not, suggest you educate yourself on the basics of International Humanitarian Law

Kenneth FAKUDE Feb 15, 2024, 12:38 PM

The Ben signature hahaha I am starting to like it though.

Ben Harper Feb 16, 2024, 05:33 AM

You're a good man Kenneth

Ben Harper Feb 16, 2024, 05:31 AM

Wrong on so many levels, your ignorance of the international laws and statutes is blatantly obvious

abriseposbus Feb 14, 2024, 10:35 AM

You are blind if you can’t see that Zionism is the devils ideology supported by inhuman pure evil demons.

Stvmr Feb 14, 2024, 07:47 AM

No ceasefire without the return of the hostages. Until then best you take over. Hamas punched their last ticket. Well played Israel.

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 09:30 AM

Well played? The ICJ found that Israel has a case to answer in terms of committing genocide. If plausible genocide is what you call well played, then I don't know. Hamas has not punched its last ticket. Even supposing they are somehow destroyed, if the occupation remains the conditions which gave rise to it will remain and another group will take its place. Of course, this overlooks Israel's 20 year role in promoting Hamas' precursors and how Netanyahu benefits from having an enemy to fight distracting from his own criminal domestic issues.

Lyle Ferrett Feb 14, 2024, 11:03 AM

Agreed. We’re told that we shouldn’t pick sides, but it’s hard for me not to after witnessing the graphic and heartbreaking scenes of October 7. Hamas is responsible for the deaths of 28,000 Palestinians because they are refusing to hand over the hostages that they’ve captured. Israel won’t bow to Hamas; this fact needs to be accepted.

Gerrie Pretorius Feb 14, 2024, 03:00 PM

You are so so right! Well said

jennifer slutzkin Feb 14, 2024, 07:48 AM

But it’s ok for Russia to bomb Ukraine ? Why don’t you fix the mess in SA before worrying about other countries.

malcol Feb 14, 2024, 07:58 AM

Maybe the South African government should warn their terrorist friends not to murder Israeli's next time. Of course this time it's too late.

qadimah1 Feb 14, 2024, 08:08 AM

Israel is THE most humane Government in the entire world, and this is A FACT. They will never launch a full scale attack against Chamas in Rafah before they have done everything humanly possible to evacuate the large Palestinian Civilian Refugee Population that is now found in that area. However, NOTHING is going to stop them from completely wiping Chamas off the face of our earth, and in this I support them 110%. מעין

John P Feb 14, 2024, 10:43 AM

Correction, "most humane Goverment" is your opinion not a fact. Where are these civilians going to be evacuated to? The whole of Gaza is a killing zone and has been destroyed. I am astonished that you seem to be ok with the forced displacement of these civilians, not once but multiple times.

Citizen X Feb 14, 2024, 08:37 PM

John P don't try and explain its lost on a bunch of racists, proudly South African. As a person borne and raised under apartheid the sickening narrative is all too clear and a reminder that in truth nothing has changed hence these comments in support of Israeli government's murderous revenge. In my view, a war they could have mitigated had they acted on intelligence unless of course they were looking for an excuse... for this war at the expense of their own people. Nevermind the killing by them of some of their own on 7/10 by nogal by mistake!!! But I guess this will be heresay where the Israeli govt is accountable but a fact where we view Hamas the terrorist group accountable. But hey let the killing of Palestinian civilians continue why should our humanity matter. Guess we start land grabs, kill those who dont want to comply and reclaim our rightful place in SA should solve the problem of historical claims... This is the gist and absurd logic I'm getting with the religious and other arguments being presented in this forum.

Ben Harper Feb 16, 2024, 05:34 AM

Ah yes - lost the argument, lets play the race card

Hennie26 Feb 14, 2024, 08:08 AM

Note that these desperate appeals match the desperate situation of Hamas exactly. Hamas must be screaming its instructions by now.

Nico Roets Feb 14, 2024, 08:09 AM

The Iran bribes in motion - Hamas is cornered and on the verge of being eliminated and the piggies must squeal...

Brandon B Feb 14, 2024, 08:19 AM

It's almost like South Africa read a different judgement to the rest of the world.

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 08:23 AM

For all those imploring that Pandor address the issues of Russia/Ukraine, Sudan, domestic crime and so on it really comes across as whataboutism. These are all important issues. But so is genocide. Would we be happy if South Africa just withdrew from the treaty? What would that say about us as a country if we couldn't agree to oppose the most evil of human crimes? At least countries like the US, Germany, France, Israel, England, Netherlands - all signatories to the convention - pretend to care even as they support the Israel war machine. We should just abandon our morality? Nah. For those rightly concerned about the hostages, try engaging with basic strategy rather than some Rambo fantasy about Merkavas or F35 or 2000lbs bombs as being some sort of sensible approach. Ditto for the destruction of Hamas. This is an unfolding genocide. Engagement in Rafah "could have gravely devastating consequences for the 1.4 million people who have nowhere left to go". This for a population already being strangled. But hey, I guess everything the ANC does is wrong, right?

Ben Harper Feb 15, 2024, 06:18 AM

Please explain how the massacre of 600,000 innocents of an actual genocide in Sudan is "whataboutism", particularly as the self same anc pushing this agenda actively protected the perpetrator of that genocide

John P Feb 15, 2024, 02:17 PM

Whataboutism - the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue. The meaning of the word is clear.

Ben Harper Feb 16, 2024, 05:35 AM

Shame, lost again John?

JP K Feb 16, 2024, 01:06 AM

If you wan't to complain about "cANCer" and our horrible government and inconsistent foreign policy, go ahead - I'm with you on that one. But let's agree that what Israel is doing in Palestine is plausibly genocide which is being supported by western democracies. But clearly you don't agree. And so, when you raise the genocide in Dafur - which no one, and I mean no one is defending - you merely do it do deflect from the plausible genocide Israel is carrying out.

paul.alberts Feb 14, 2024, 08:23 AM

Weird that they don't like the war they started, 7/10, does that ring any bells Pandor.

Graham Yutar Feb 14, 2024, 08:33 AM

Yes, what about the hostages? What about the Palestinians being killed for the last 10 years in Syria? Nigeria- Christians being murdered.....etc only noise about what happens on Israel's borders. What about the level of crime in SA- murders and rapes etc............ Can we fix SA first?

cgdeegs56 Feb 14, 2024, 08:33 AM

The ICJ ordered Hamas to release the hostages. Pandor conveniently fails to mention this. Double standards par for the course for the ANC.

John P Feb 14, 2024, 10:44 AM

You conveniently forget everything else "ordered" by the ICJ

Ben Harper Feb 15, 2024, 06:19 AM

your fantasies don't count

John P Feb 15, 2024, 07:32 PM

Fantasies?

Beyond Fedup Feb 14, 2024, 08:33 AM

Pathetic and shrill bleating from the most hypocritical cabal of villains! We all want an end to the violence and a just peace in the Middle East but coming from such a flawed, false and hyper-hypocritical player party such as the vile anc, who only see and condemn '"genocide" when they select to, ignoring all other that is happening - who could possibly take them seriously? Poor puffed up fools - can't get their own way and they are throwing their toys out of the cot. If this wicked anc was true to its so-called human right values, our Constitution etc., they equally would condemn Putin, Assad from Syria, the Iranian evil regime etc. Perhaps then most countries would take them seriously.

alastairmgf Feb 14, 2024, 08:43 AM

What a ridiculous situation. A failed state which cares naught for its own citizens spends an inordinate amount of time and money on a war on the other side of the world siding with a terrorist organization whose stated objective is to wipe a whole country’s population.

louise.temk Feb 14, 2024, 10:17 AM

Exactly!!

John P Feb 14, 2024, 10:45 AM

There certainly is some truth in that.

Georg Scharf Scharf Feb 14, 2024, 02:58 PM

Hear-hear!!!!

Nkunku S Feb 14, 2024, 08:57 AM

Looking at these comments it strikes me how the ANC has yet again misread the room. Not one comment is in favour of the ANC's ICJ stunt. What a truly out of touch, incompetent bunch of self-serving thieves

ritadej Feb 14, 2024, 09:16 AM

ANC, please stop supporting terrorists like Hamas, who are continually firing rockets at Israeli targets and expect them to not retaliate. And please stop alligning yourselves with countries who don’t care about human rights, have terrorist tendencies themselves and jeoperdise world peace by taunting western nations with nuclear weapons.

Feb 14, 2024, 09:30 AM

Violence begets violence. There are going to be ongoing consequences stemming from this brutal onslaught on mostly innocent civilians, the level of hatred is going to be never-ending and this is going to spread out globally beyond the Middle East region. Let us not try to justify who started what, let us not claim the right to suffering and to being the ultimate victim of history. Victims all too easily become perpetrators in an endless cycle of repetition compulsion. Until a change in consciousness occurs, and one steps out of the endless cycle of pain and suffering and chooses love.

Middle aged Mike Feb 14, 2024, 01:26 PM

I shouldn't hold my breath if I were you as humans aren't changing their fundamental nature any time soon. Killing at scale is one of the things that we took to as soon as we could and we've become rather good at it.

Ben Harper Feb 15, 2024, 06:22 AM

Its the nature of man, it's what mankind has done since creation

abriseposbus Feb 14, 2024, 10:15 AM

Disgusting war pigs

laure Feb 14, 2024, 01:49 PM

Hamas? I agree!

Cornaymjbeste Feb 14, 2024, 10:19 AM

Israel wouldn't dare conduct war in Rafah if leaders from the Pro Palestinian faction offer themselves as human shields in Rafah.

SATRADENET Feb 14, 2024, 10:28 AM

We have a community innitiative where residents in our area contribute food and old cloting to a small location squeezed between the backwall of a industrial complex andtrain tracks. The living conditions suffered by these South Africans is shocking, the children literally sleep on a piece of wood in a tin shack that is blistering hot during the day and bitterly cold at night. A family of four lives off a can of food, a loaf of bread and a sachet of milk every day...where is the ANC government compassion for these people? Why are they so enthralled with what is happening in a foreign country when their own citizens are living from hand to mouth?

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 03:17 PM

It's true. South Africa is a troubled country. Look at any statistics relating to human development and wellbeing and we're not doing well. Though, as the ANC reminds us, maybe compared to Apartheid we're doing better in some ways. Maybe we don't want to acknowledge that. But should SA just withdraw from the genocide convention and only focus on domestic issues? Should we pretend as though we don't exist as part of an international community? Should we ignore things like sport, entertainment, holidays, fancy cars and whatnot - because all these are frivolous things being enjoyed even as you say South Africans are suffering in shocking living conditions? Presumably that is morally not objectionable but supporting the prevention of genocide is? If international law is applied which recognizes the rights of all human beings all the time will that not make the world a better place for everyone?

Ben Harper Feb 15, 2024, 06:25 AM

The anc doesn't care about the Genocide Convention, if they did they would have arrested Al Bashir as instructed by our own courts

Joe Irwin Feb 14, 2024, 05:43 PM

Cash for the election campaign comes first. The sad thing is that many of the people who live in those horrendous condition don't understand who is responsible for their plight.

rudi.coets Feb 14, 2024, 10:35 AM

Its like our government cant read

bryan33 Feb 14, 2024, 10:52 AM

The SA government should urgently attend to all the problems they've created in this country over the past 30 years before interfering in other country's problems.

Jan Vos Feb 14, 2024, 11:00 AM

Confucius: You cannot have your cake and eat it.

desmond.motha Feb 14, 2024, 11:10 AM

It is at moments like these that you feel guilty in that you can't be physically involved in destroying this evil..

Jan Vos Feb 14, 2024, 11:17 AM

Urgent request, nê? Anyone listening?

Haroun Abdul Feb 14, 2024, 11:23 AM

The world is sick and people are with the murdering of women and children in large. They are not condeming acts of violence behaviour but instead crying for acts of violence against vulnerable women, children, old-age and a population (Islam). This will not happen as Islam will live until judgement day.

icollins.four Feb 14, 2024, 11:27 AM

Perhaps South Africa, aka the ANC, should use its diplomatic skills to ask the ICJ to firstly force Hamas to release ALL the hostages as was issued by the ICJ? Then, ask the ICJ to ask Israel to cease their attacks, which was not in fact a request issued by the ICJ. First things first. Why is the ANC not putting pressure on Hamas to release the hostages, and then, Israel can then legitimately be asked to cease their attacks. But, while the hostages are still held by Hamas, then surely Israel can still legitimately continue to look for hostages, and turn over all stones? What is Hamas afraid of that Israel will find further in underground tunnels? What are still hidden there ?

JP K Feb 14, 2024, 05:29 PM

Let's ignore international law for a moment which prevents both genocide and collective punishment. Hostages that have already been released were done through negotiations. 130 are unaccounted for. Bombing Gaza risks killing the hostages - unless the IDF simultaneously knows where they are but doesn't send in teams to free them... But that is probably part of Israel's Hannibal directive where it is better to kill Israelis than let them be taken as hostages. This is why Israelis whose loved ones were taken as hostages are protesting Israel's militaristic approach. The second issue, is what you calling turning over every stone. What is probably more accurate is shooting anything that moves. Which is really what this is all about. Plausible genocide. That is, wiping out in whole or part members of a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. This is about tens of thousands of civilians dead, hundreds of thousands forced to flee (many several times), and hundreds of thousands facing famine. It's about families huddling together so that if they are attacked, they die together. It's about the erasing of Palestinians. It's not about securing the release of hostages.

Ben Harper Feb 15, 2024, 06:29 AM

With the population of Palestine doubling in the past 10 years and less than 30,000 killed in the 5 month old conflict, they really doing a bad job at this genocide thing

dexmoodl Feb 14, 2024, 11:30 AM

This just puts more pressure on the US ,who are getting no traction with Netanyahu . The 2 minor policy moves against Israel to try to get the message across of their disapproval did not work. The sanctioning of settlers and including Israel for the first time on Countries that have to submit a report on usage of US arms so that they comply with international law (that report due by Israel in a few weeks ) .

johnrompa Feb 14, 2024, 11:33 AM

What are the SA Government doing with the Gaza situation. They should spend as much time getting the country in order before meddling in Foreign situations. Will they ever learn? Probably not. John

kolskoot Feb 14, 2024, 11:47 AM

So... "The South African State" (read: the failed, depraved ANC government) wants the ICJ to prevent an Israeli attack on Rafah. So Hamas can regroup?! It's trash day. Clean it out. When cancer is radiated - and there's little else that'll work - healthy cells are lost in saving the patient's life. I'm done ducking in empathy - the parents of the children of Gaza should long have protected their offspring against the inevitable harm begged by Hamas. It's on them, on the parents. Leave now, any which way; make a plan - it's desperation time long coming.

C CMC Feb 14, 2024, 11:56 AM

hmmm

G C Feb 14, 2024, 12:19 PM

South Africa has so many problems and is close to imploding but the ANC want to get invloved in somebodies else's mess. Iran must be speanding a lot of money to get ANC to play this game.

ochre_clink Feb 14, 2024, 12:33 PM

what a strange thing to do. why don't they do their jobs in SA? their support for murderous terrorists will end up costing South African jobs

ericsomahhashi Feb 14, 2024, 01:37 PM

This is very sad..

Georg Scharf Scharf Feb 14, 2024, 02:53 PM

Well, why don't the ANC show their leadership "skills" p please beg their Hamas friends to relent, release the hostages unconditionally, surrender and deliver the top three Hamas leaders to stand trial for human right infringements and for the murder of non military civilians - Israel and Palestinians. They should then be executed like the Nazi's at Nuremberg trials 1946-1947. Israel has no other option but to keep momentum and crush Hamas, at least for peace for the present generations.

jnpickering Feb 14, 2024, 04:15 PM

How about making an urgent request to Comrade Bheki to stop allowing the people who feed you to keep getting slaughtered? Just a thought. Maybe you can attempt to do something about the litany of other failures that have occurred under your 'watch'. The world sees right through you, they know you are incompetent and corrupt, you are not fooling anyone except you naive abused voters.

Arthur M Feb 14, 2024, 05:07 PM

Well spoken and what's more this God is fully in control of this dreadful situation because He cares deeply for His people in both Israel and Gza.

scanning Feb 14, 2024, 05:24 PM

Is there a large payment coming from overseas to fill the ANC's coffers?

Jellybean Jellybean Feb 14, 2024, 05:43 PM

There is a highway of sophisticated tunnels in Rafah, probably more so than what has already been revealed and destroyed. Maybe there are other sensitive matters that need to be concealed. Just witness the weapons they have at their disposal. Why is that senile Biden doing all to demand a ceasefire. Wait to see the egg on many faces...soon.

John Stephens Feb 14, 2024, 07:01 PM

Clearly a lot of commentators around here are just really or wilfully ignorant. The hypocrisy of the ANC is irrelevant. The only issue is the situation in Gaza. The horrors of the Holocaust do not give the Israelis a free pass to commit the genocide they are obviously engaged in. If you support Israels actions, you are a a murderous individual lacking common humanity and any sense of morality.

Rodgers Thusi Feb 14, 2024, 10:41 PM

Reading through the comments, one cannot help feeling a strong nostolgia for Apartheid, an inhumane system that promotes the interests of one group and disregards the humanity of others. Apartheid fell, not because the majority of white South Africans suddenly woke up believing in democracy, it is because the majority of black people relentlessly resisted it, a few whites joined them and the international community (not western governments) stood by them. This alliance exists to this day and for the sake of humanity everywhere, it remains our only hope. Yet those on the side of Apartheid systems are growing immensely powerful and so, the struggle continues.

John P Feb 15, 2024, 07:46 PM

Actually many western governments supported the anti Apartheid movement, Just a quick list includes initially Denmark, Sweden and others joined later by Britain, Holland, America and more.

Ben Harper Feb 16, 2024, 05:39 AM

Victim mentality, devoid of truth

kcfrom Feb 15, 2024, 04:42 PM

Why don't South Africa also launch an appeal at the ICJ against Russia's genocidal invasion of the Ukrain? Don't want to upset the communist ANC regime's in-bed relationship with Russia?

louise.temk Feb 15, 2024, 05:58 PM

Hereros - autocorrect I hate You

JP K Feb 16, 2024, 06:20 PM

You go for the ad hominem about educating myself and then you misname a people... Anyway, you haven't actually addressed my point namely that Jews do not have exclusive insights to understand genocide. And even if the majority of Jews do support Israel, so what? The majority isn't automatically right. What's so complicated about that?

JP K Feb 16, 2024, 01:40 AM

Why pick the side that looks like it's committing genocide though?

Feb 17, 2024, 11:46 AM

Which side is this question addressed to?