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title: "Podcast: Sisonke Msimang, writing the future"
description: "On Monday the University of Witwatersrand's Ruth First Memorial Lecture attracted a record number of people eager to hear Panashe Chigumadzi and Sisonke Msimang, who performed with poet Lebo Mashile, speak on issues of race. Before the event, the Daily Maverick Show on CliffCentral sat down with Msimang to discuss writing, growing up in exile and her speech, The politics of friendship in post-apartheid South Africa. By GREG NICOLSON."
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# Podcast: Sisonke Msimang, writing the future

> On Monday the University of Witwatersrand's Ruth First Memorial Lecture attracted a record number of people eager to hear Panashe Chigumadzi and Sisonke Msimang, who performed with poet Lebo Mashile, speak on issues of race. Before the event, the Daily Maverick Show on CliffCentral sat down with Msimang to discuss writing, growing up in exile and her speech, The politics of friendship in post-apartheid South Africa. By GREG NICOLSON.

By Greg Nicolson · Published 19 August 2015, 02:46 SAST

## Content

[Media](//iono.fm/embed/epi/201335)

Read more:

- Hear the audio and read the transcripts of Panashe Chigumadzi and Sisonke Msimang's Ruth First Lectures on [Wits Journalism](http://www.journalism.co.za/blog/ruth-remembered-race-talk/)
- Listen to more Daily Maverick podcasts on [CliffCentral](http://cliffcentral.com/podcasts/the-daily-maverick-show/)
- Read Sisonke Msimang's columns on [Daily Maverick](https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2015-08-12-marikana-a-lesson-in-the-vulnerability-of-the-black-body/)